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Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

Hendrikto wrote: post #156
bell-cot wrote: post #114

Reminds me of an incident we had with Dropbox a decade ago. They deleted some niche accounting software (custom developed by us) from our Dropbox account, plus their own log files covering those deletions. Then played ignorant. We learned the lesson, and never again trusted Dropbox, for anything. (Best guess - a would-be client got pissed when software which they'd never paid for lacked a feature, and told Dropbox a…

Surely a Dropbox upload wasn‘t the only version you had. Couldn‘t you restore easily?

To be fair, they didn't say it was the only copy they had.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by TameAntelope »

mindcrime wrote: post #112
TameAntelope wrote: post #99

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What evidence is there that "everybody" else did "get it"? And what does that even have to do with what I just said? Choosing to communicate poorly is a bad decision, even if some people happen - by chance - to understand you correctly in spite of that bad decision.

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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by lostgame »

Can I take a moment to recommend 'OwnCloud'? ( https://owncloud.com )

I may be out of the loop, but my experience with it has been great. It's a (mostly?) open-source, self-hosted DropBox(ish) clone - with a great UI, web browser support as well as native MacOS, Windows, Android and iOS apps. (I figure there's probably some sort of Linux client as well? I'd have no idea.)

I'm shocked that Adult Swim isn't using something like this internally to work around this very issue. I'm sure they send copyrighted clips of shit to each other all the time for reference material. They've never run into this issue before? Even once?

Lesson learned - depend as little as possible on services you can extremely easy replicate on your own. When my free DropBox storage ran out years ago, I installed OwnCloud and have never even thought about cloud storage since. It 'just works'.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #123
UweSchmidt wrote: post #49

This is an inevitable consequence from the push to make cloud companies responsible for the content they host. Analyzing all of it can only be automated; automation will deliver weird false positives.

Amazing that the Internet culture that vehemently opposed DRM and created things like bit torrent so quickly lined up behind algorithmic content moderation.

IMHO, the problem started when we all jumped on Gmail, knowing that there was no support, and if it broke, we got to keep both pieces. I watched my wife's account get taken over in real time a couple years ago. Ten years of personal and financial info, now in the hands of God-knows-who for God-knows-why. I simply deleted the account from her devices, and moved on. There was nothing I could do, and no one I could complain to about it. The WILD success of this model has led everyone else to do the same thing.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by rajup »

bell-cot wrote: post #114

Reminds me of an incident we had with Dropbox a decade ago. They deleted some niche accounting software (custom developed by us) from our Dropbox account, plus their own log files covering those deletions. Then played ignorant. We learned the lesson, and never again trusted Dropbox, for anything. (Best guess - a would-be client got pissed when software which they'd never paid for lacked a feature, and told Dropbox a…

Sadly this story could have happened with any big cloud provider.

Ideally there would be more regulation around the ability of big tech companies to shutdown your digital life through a mindless algorithm, with close to zero recourse. Unfortunately I don’t see anything happening unless someone really powerful (say a member of Congress) gets bitten by this.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by gwbas1c »

bell-cot wrote: post #114

Reminds me of an incident we had with Dropbox a decade ago. They deleted some niche accounting software (custom developed by us) from our Dropbox account, plus their own log files covering those deletions. Then played ignorant. We learned the lesson, and never again trusted Dropbox, for anything. (Best guess - a would-be client got pissed when software which they'd never paid for lacked a feature, and told Dropbox a…

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Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Post by towaway15463 »

kmeisthax wrote: post #153
hs86 wrote: post #24

If he uses it for work, and clearly, most shared links he creates are of copyrighted media content, how would this work in practice? Does Google Drive/Dropbox have some flag for "creator" accounts?

Assuming this is copyright related... probably not. The only way this could be done in practice would be for Justin Roiland/Williams Street/Rick & Morty LLC/Cartoon Network/Warner Bros. to legally indemnify Dropbox - as in, agree to pay all of Dropbox's legal fees and damages if they get sued for copyright infringement outside of their DMCA 512 safe harbor. This is entirely impractical for an individual to pull off,…

bet you a dollar that they were taken down because they were sharing links to content they had created for Rick and Morty etc and Dropbox’s dumb algo just didn’t know that they were the creators of that content.
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