I don't like what I've heard about Boudin at all, but can someone explain how the 40% who supported Boudin might feel about this? What is their motivation? Is it as simple as not worrying too much about crime and believing Boudin's approach is justified?
Chesa Boudin Recalled by San Francisco Voters
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Re: Chesa Boudin Recalled by San Francisco Voters
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A prosecutor who was captured by ideology.
care to expand on that?
DA parents were domestic terrorists jailed or murder (google it)
So he was raised with parents in jail and became a defendant attorney. He took power he took revenge on the system and people by stopping prosecuting people in the name of social justice, and letting crime run rampant.
Straight out of a Batman movie, just in real life there is no Batman to save SF.
People had enough and are revolting against this lying lunatic. Good riddance.
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#63I don't like what I've heard about Boudin at all, but can someone explain how the 40% who supported Boudin might feel about this? What is their motivation? Is it as simple as not worrying too much about crime and believing Boudin's approach is justified?
Can you explain why you want to do the other thing, when the results aren't really working?
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#64>Crime overall has fallen since Mr. Boudin took office in January 2020 lol, that's pretty easy to do when you just stop prosecuting people. Same way graduation rates increase if you just stop failing people. Who cares about the actual purpose of institutions or whether goals are being achieved, just make sure the numbers are what we want https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1533544746173571079
Judging from the chart, looks like about a 20% drop in felony prosecutions in 2020/2021 compared to a typical previous year, plus a larger drop in the number of misdemeanor prosecutions. (Which, note, are separate statistics from the number of reported crimes.) The once-in-a-century pandemic also had significant effects here, both on the DA office and courts, and on the level/types of crime in the city, making it har…
Yes. In our adversarial justice system, we rely on the DA to eagerly prosecute, the defense attorney or public defender to eagerly defend, the judge or jury to render the verdict, and the legislature to pass laws. Trying to compensate for dysfunction in one system by introducing dysfunction in another only makes the issues worse.
Boudin was a public defender, and a pretty good one at that. He carried the public defender mindset into the DA's office, and it didn't work well.
(You edited your comment to add "irrespective of circumstances", which changes the meaning. There will always be gray areas where we rely on the judge or the DA to exercise discretion, but in a healthy system the scope of those areas can't amount to refusing to enforce entire statutes or reinterpreting statutes by executive policy.)
Re: Chesa Boudin Recalled by San Francisco Voters
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Ah, I see. No true leftist.
I can't find anything the guy has said about the benefits of communisim, or worker revolts, I'm certainly open to change my mind if I've just missed his Leninist screed somewhere. Please link. Otherwise, no, hes not far left, some people around here just think anyone left of Mussolini is a socialistcommunist and can't tell the words apart, and that hurts everyone when it isn't called out, as it drags discourse furthe…
Wow just keep moving the goalposts. Leftist now means communist. You saw it here first people.
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> What non-violent opportunistic crimes are putting young Americans in jail? Low level, non-violent drug offenses are the low-hanging fruit [1]. [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/101...
The crimes listed at that link are making, selling, importing and exporting drugs. How are these 'opportunistic'? All of them require planning.
You have a very rose colored view of the world. Some folks are presented with an opportunity to sell (or be an accessory to the sale) and the deal is too good to pass up because the alternative is starving.
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I’m curious how many people would agree with this comment. If Chesa and his policies are not considered far left, who/what is? It seems that his polices were on the extreme end of the progressive spectrum, and that both his supporters and critics would agree with that statement.
I dunno man, seems like he's a strong law and order DA. The only problem is he's applying the laws to people who normally get to do whatever they want, so yeah a well funded recall campaign.
Oh yeah, and those people who normally get to break the law with impunity are the cops.
Re: Chesa Boudin Recalled by San Francisco Voters
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#69I don't like what I've heard about Boudin at all, but can someone explain how the 40% who supported Boudin might feel about this? What is their motivation? Is it as simple as not worrying too much about crime and believing Boudin's approach is justified?
It’s a gross abuse of the recall process. Recalls should be reserved for flagrant abuses of power, egregious ethical lapses, or profound incompetence.
If voters are just unhappy with an elected official, they should follow the normal election process. The SF DA is up for a routine election in November of 2023.
Turning recalls into a routine part of politics, where billionaire-backed activists can try to dump a bunch of money into advertising and redo every election they didn’t like the outcome of, in low-turnout primaries or special elections, ends up costing the city a fortune and distorting the ordinary political process.
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What non-violent opportunistic crimes are putting young Americans in jail? Theft? Is there bipartisan support for reducing its penalties? Or do you mean some other one? I can see bipartisan support for reducing penalties for victimless, non-oppotunistic crimes, like drug use.
> What non-violent opportunistic crimes are putting young Americans in jail? Low level, non-violent drug offenses are the low-hanging fruit [1]. [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/101...
There really aren't that many low level non-violent drug offenders in prison.