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Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

#142

It seems more like "free sub-domains" not domains. EU.org is not endorsed to any European Union initiative. These things are quite unstable. I've seen URL shorteners (even one from goo.gl) and URL "redirectioners" and a lot of things like that disappear. Like Geocities in the wind. Sadly only archive.org is a source of memories.

“Since 1996” seems very stable for a free URL shortener, if true.

Edit: but I agree with your main point, .eu.org isn’t a real TLD as they make out in the title.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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post #129

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If you buy a M8 Bolt or a pair of plain black socks, you are free to do whatever you want with it, sell photos of it, make copies etc. The same can’t exactly be said about the book you purchased (in most legislations where the concept of intellectual property exist). Does that mean that you don’t own the book? Ownership is not so clear cut.

You own that copy of the book, you do not own the copyright (the right to copy) for the book

Intellectual property makes sense to us because it's existed for our whole lives. I think it would surprise someone who'd never heard of it. If I were told I own a pogo stick but not its "bounceright", I'd be as confused as this hypothetical person.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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post #128

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> It is impossible for the blockchain to prove anything about anything that originates from outside of that particular blockchain True, but instead of having to trust a central authority for insertion, updating, removal and constant maintenance of your "ownership", the trust would only be required for insertion. Once you purchased a domain and it's inserted in the blockchain, no one (outside of yourself) should be ab…

So what happens when Microsoft disagrees that I own Microsoft.block? E: Honest question, comes off as snark a little - would they be able to just take it somehow or would they need to use jailtime and or broken kneecaps to get it off you? Either way the blockchain's concept of ownership seems like it would be broken easily by law and companies with lots of money

They hardcode their IP into IE/Edge and Windows as the host for that domain, ignoring what the blockchain says.

Or more likely, in partnership with other big tech with similar concerns, they develop an infrastructure that permits blocking/revoking/overriding specific domains, that most clients would refer to in preference to the blockchain. This would be fairly easy to justify on grounds of security and crime.

Or they just don't support the blockchain stuff in the first place, because the current system mostly works and provides a legal process for disputes which they are content with.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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post #88

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When you accidentally lose it (by losing your private keys), it will be impossible for anyone else to get it back for you. In a sense, this will prove to you that you did really own it and no-one else did.

It sounds like I don't own the domain, but whoever has the Keys does. Imagine somebody suddenly "owns" my house because they pickpocketed my house keys, without any recurse. Then I really don't own the house, do I.

It's the closest concept we have to physical ownership in the digital realm.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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I’m involved with a URL shortener service. Service had to ban this domain as sub-domains from this domain seem to be loved by spammers/scammers to host their scams…

Free services attract spammers. No surprise. The "free" model is broken. Imagine how easy Twitter would get rid of spam accounts if they only charged a few sats per tweet.

> Imagine how easy Twitter would get rid of spam accounts if they only charged a few sats per tweet.

It'd be spam free alright, because there would be nobody left to spam to.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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I’m involved with a URL shortener service. Service had to ban this domain as sub-domains from this domain seem to be loved by spammers/scammers to host their scams…

On a similar note, most URL shorteners are also on all kinds of blocklists because of their tendency to get abused by spammers. That's just the way things go when you provide easy and accessible services.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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post #142

It seems more like "free sub-domains" not domains. EU.org is not endorsed to any European Union initiative. These things are quite unstable. I've seen URL shorteners (even one from goo.gl) and URL "redirectioners" and a lot of things like that disappear. Like Geocities in the wind. Sadly only archive.org is a source of memories.

“Since 1996” seems very stable for a free URL shortener, if true. Edit: but I agree with your main point, .eu.org isn’t a real TLD as they make out in the title.

Is it a static page? Nothing on it indicates it has been updated since, say, 1997.

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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What's the difference for an end user except for the extra dot? Isn't that the same with co.uk or com.au? Americans may find that inconvenient, more radical tongues call it a sign of US imperialism that .com is often associated with the home for US companies. Right, technically and probably legally there was a list of domains that you cannot register because they act as a "top-level" like co.uk. Not sure how official…

> Americans may find that inconvenient, more radical tongues call it a sign of US imperialism that .com is often associated with the home for US companies. I'm not sure why you felt the need to try and make some point about US imperialism in a discussion about a TLD with an extra dot when plenty of countries have a TLD that is customarily used without an extra dot: .de, .ch, .nl, .es, .ie, etc. It's simply a matter o…

And to nitpick .au is actually available now too.

It's actually not that popular with most people I know because it sort of muddies the water with most Australians being very comfortable with .com.au and having a basic understanding of its restrictions.

https://domains.google/tld/au/

Re: Eu.org, free domain names since 1996

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Something something blockchain! I believe for "real" ownership of domain names, a blockchain would actually make sense.

There are already projects like Handshake, ENS, Unstoppable domains that try to do this. Honestly I like the need for renewal fees for domains personally, since it means you can't just buy a domain once and squat on it forever.

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