Maybe a more digestible resource: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cubans-split-over-mor... My quick read seems to me that these are things that exist in most developed Western societies today: same sex marriage, equal sharing of domestic responsibilities, prenuptial agreements, assisted pregnancy. There's probably more to it - but probably the more significant news is these concepts are taking root in Cuba?
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#22To date no "most progressive family law in the world" has touched the legalization of polyamory; why so? The only thing that comes to mind is that it would become too convenient a loophole to escape taxes.
Polyamory isn't illegal in most 'progressive' nations.
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Abuse and violence.
Logically I don't see how a n>2 person marriage would be more likely to be abusive than a two person marriage.
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Logically I don't see how a n>2 person marriage would be more likely to be abusive than a two person marriage.
Sharing a household with a genetically unrelated adult is one of the biggest risk factors for experiencing child abuse. This is well known and well supported by evolutionary psychology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_effect Therefore, introducing additional genetically unrelated adults into a family would likely increase the risk of child abuse.
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#26Maybe a more digestible resource: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cubans-split-over-mor... My quick read seems to me that these are things that exist in most developed Western societies today: same sex marriage, equal sharing of domestic responsibilities, prenuptial agreements, assisted pregnancy. There's probably more to it - but probably the more significant news is these concepts are taking root in Cuba?
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Goes on to not give a single example of it going beyond anything existing in the rest of the world.
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There are only 31 countries in the world that respect marriage equality. The fact that Cuba is going to be 32, in front of half of continental Europe is a good thing for Cuba. > This is the same communist party that put gay people in concentration camps in the 1960s. There are still parents in the USA who are currently sending their kids to gay conversion camps. I don't understand your point.
I think the OP is attempting to point out the abysmal record of gay rights in communist systems. Be it communism of the 60's, or modern communism like that practiced in China, gay's are second class citizens...tragically denied the rights enjoyed by heterosexuals.
I think things are more nuanced (and interesting) than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_LGBT_rights
For example:
> In 1962, the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic decriminalized same-sex sexual intercourse after scientific research from Kurt Freund led to the conclusion that homosexual orientation cannot be changed.
Meanwhile, in USA:
> In 1962 Illinois adopted the recommendations of the Model Penal Code and thus became the first state to remove criminal penalties for consensual sodomy from its criminal code,[7] almost a decade before any other state.
There is an abysmal record of gay rights across all parts of the political spectrum, including using sexual orientation as a political tool of oppression. There's nothing special about communism.
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> Quick and incredibly shallow, yet the most prominent comment in the thread. > What is being discussed in Cuba goes beyond anything existing in the rest of the world Goes on to not give a single example of it going beyond anything existing in the rest of the world.
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Sharing a household with a genetically unrelated adult is one of the biggest risk factors for experiencing child abuse. This is well known and well supported by evolutionary psychology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_effect Therefore, introducing additional genetically unrelated adults into a family would likely increase the risk of child abuse.
Poverty and systemic issues contribute way more than that. Can we abolish poverty before we abolish civil rights?
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Polyamory isn't illegal in most 'progressive' nations.
You're missing the point. It isn't recognized as a legal family form either.
Then you take a viewpoint (legalize polymarous marriage, basically) that goes against the democratic majority in the US and Cuba. Wanting to force an anti-democratic solution while praising democracy as the solution is contradictory.
Do you want polyamorous marriage, or do you want democratic decision making on family law? Until the public opinion changes, you can only pick one.