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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

drekk wrote: post #426
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #331

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> any type of hard drugs, like alcohol and tobacco, in grocery stores. I volunteered at an addiction and methadone clinic for awhile. I recommend you try it then come talk about what “hard drugs” are.

Alcohol kills more people than "harder" drugs and is much more acceptable within polite society. Same situation with tobacco, which also happens to be one of the most difficult substances to quit that we know of. Your average patient suffering from substance abuse will have an easier time quitting most drugs in comparison to nicotine. Given intravenously, nicotine is 5-10x more potent in producing a euphoric effect t…

Please remake your argument using RATE of users who remain high functioning.

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Post by nostromo95 »

amenghra wrote: post #404
nostromo95 wrote: post #400

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Invasive to whom ? I'm certainly not going to be feeling outraged by medical records disclosure when I'm dead. Do with me what you will when I'm gone--I care more about my experience when I'm alive.

Hypothetical situation: how would you feel if your medical records and used to calculate health risks for your children/other family members and refuse specific insurances (or make them more expensive)?

That’s a good point.

I was imagining some sort of anonymized records database—turns out you can look up specific names which I agree yields some undesirable outcomes.

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Post by annyeonghada »

hhjinks wrote: post #322
twobitshifter wrote: post #317

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Where can this be done legally in the US?

Why would someone who rejects society care about society's laws?

Because (s)he may not care about society, but society - in particular, the government - care about him/her.

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Post by bjornsing »

ceejayoz wrote: post #392
bjornsing wrote: post #376

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This angle is increasingly popular, but I think totally naive and even dangerous: When the shit hits the fan there is no “balance” of power between government and the private sector. History is not full of examples of corporations putting people in camps and working them to death, despite the government’s attempts to prevent it. The government has all the power (when it really matters).

VW used slave labor, as did the American plantations. Even today, forced labor is rife in some industries, like shrimp fishery in Asia.

Of course. That’s why I added “despite the government’s attempts to prevent it” above. But that obviously wasn’t enough. People genuinely think that the next concentration camps will have a Google logo.

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Post by bjelkeman-again »

hp48fan wrote: post #208
vkou wrote: post #161

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What are the other reasons?

I knew a (great) artist who spent almost her whole life in Norway and Sweeden. Shes in her nineties, speaks a half dozen languages, worked for Norwegian public TV. That is to say she's walked in the highest echelons on Nordic society. Talking to her, she'd often bemoan that the prejudice that Nordic societies are very conformist is true. Which is in line with what Ive experienced with Nordics

Having lived in the UK, US, Sweden, and worked extensively in the Netherlands and India, I can comfortably say that conformism exists everywhere. It doesn’t take the same shape everywhere, but it certainly colours the place and the culture. Scandinavia is not a bad place to live by any measure. I can list a host of reasons why either place would be uncomfortable to live in. But one of my key takeaways from my experience is that different places are culturally different, but different isn’t necessarily bad, just different. Don’t dismiss a place until you have been there.

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Post by InefficientRed »

madeofpalk wrote: post #75
monkeybutton wrote: post #53

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Or "you've reached your monthly quota of alcohol purchases". Which isn't far fetched at all! In parts of Canada, up into the 50s, you had to bring your permit booklet to buy alcohol from state operated stores where they recorded your purchases: https://www.tvo.org/article/buzzkillers-a-brief-history-of-t...

I mean, > Vinmonopolet (English: The Wine Monopoly), symbolized by Ⓥ and colloquially shortened to Polet, is a government-owned alcoholic beverage retailer and the only company allowed to sell beverages containing an alcohol content higher than 4.75% in Norway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinmonopolet

There are still US states where wine can only be sold in state-owned stores.

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Post by gryte »

mdp2021 wrote: post #332
wiz21c wrote: post #259

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As said in the article, we already share our data with the supermarket, google, etc and whatever other systems that binds all of them together. In that situation, I'm happy that government has access to the same data because it gives it a way to balance the private sector power. Now what is needed is the ability to opt out.

> As said in the article, we already share The article says that a number of people uses «loyalty programs». It mentions tracking though «debit card», and last time I checked Norwegians still have circulating cash. It does not mention Google, but surely there will be Norwegians that do not share data with it. Let us highlight that surely, some do not share at all. I do not understand, contextually, the idea of «balan…

Circulation of cash is very low, only 3% of trensfered money is in cash according to this 2019 study https://www.norges-bank.no/en/news-events/news-publications/... Since then, with COVID where many stores refused cash payments, so it may have decreased further.

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Post by doublepg23 »

InefficientRed wrote: post #437
madeofpalk wrote: post #75

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I mean, > Vinmonopolet (English: The Wine Monopoly), symbolized by Ⓥ and colloquially shortened to Polet, is a government-owned alcoholic beverage retailer and the only company allowed to sell beverages containing an alcohol content higher than 4.75% in Norway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinmonopolet

There are still US states where wine can only be sold in state-owned stores.

Currently working at a PA one, I even get a .gov address.
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