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Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

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See https://yinindie.com/ for a curated list of mostly peaceful video games. Here are some I have played that I enjoyed: Balsa Model Flight Simulator - https://store.steampowered.com/app/977920/Balsa_Model_Flight... Celeste - https://store.steampowered.com/app/504230/Celeste/ Everything - https://store.steampowered.com/app/582270/Everything/ Hollow Knight - https://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_Knight/ Leg…

Zelda: Breath of the Wild is so violent there is a game mechanic that resurrects all the bad guys you have killed, just so the game doesn’t have to keep track of so much state.

it has nothing to do with saving state and everything to do with the fact the world would be boring if it stayed empty

meaning it was a design decision not a technical one

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More and more games nowadays have a little recap during the loading screens when you load a save file. I've even seen games that explicitly say "you haven't loaded this save in a while. Do you want a refresher?" It's a cool idea and seems to me to solve the problem of "where was I" after a break, but it hasn't caught on fully yet.

The FFXIII series did this really well. I took a year to finish FFXIII, and even with its complicated plot I was able to follow it because of the recaps that would be presented to me every time I'd start the game up. I think it's the best Final Fantasy ever made.

Dragon Quest 11 did a great job with these recaps. Someone else already gushed about how great they are: https://www.usgamer.net/articles/dragon-quest-xi-recap-featu...

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which scene was it? The dinner scene? (Out of curiosity)

I would guess the organ donation scene.

That's the one. My little friend was laughing his ass off right next to me, I was just horrified.

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

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I'm struggling myself to find videogames for my daughter (almost 4). She played Kirby star allies and Yoshi's Crafted World (both finished now), but after that I've been struggling to find any meaningful game that had the right difficulty, right theme and didn't have the requirement of being able to read. I avoid all tablet games because there is too much garbage. Anyway, depending on the age of your kids, those two…

Super Monkey Ball Banana Mania: Don't get Banana Blitz HD, the camera controls suck. If you're unfamiliar with Monkey Ball: Monkeys in balls navigate puzzles to get from the start to the finish in as little time as possible. Originally an arcade game. Sponsored by Dole, the banana people.

Tetris Effect: It's Tetris! With lots of shiny colors! I'm not the hugest fan of how they set up the grading system, but it has lots of replay value and has lots of no-fail modes.

Abzu: Somber, deep, with bright colors and lots of fish. A little eerie in places. No dialog/words.

Journey: Possibly a little mature (despite its Everyone rating) for how eerie it is, Journey contains no words. There's spoken dialog in a language that nobody knows anymore. [2] reviews.

Offspring Fling: You're a momma fluff who's gotta get her little fluffs home! Very little penalty for failure, it's a fun sidescrolling platforming game. A few spots might need help from a parent to get right.

Echochrome: Think MC Escher, but as a perspective puzzle game. PSP/PS3 only, though...

Do you read to your daughter? If she's got the basics of words down and you want to work on words being read, heard, and having meaning, I have some suggestions!

SkateBird: BIRBS! TECH DECKS! Heckin TRICKS! There's story, told in birbish. The difficulty can be turned to super low, the assists turned up super high. There's very few "big words" anywhere -- most of them are maybe two syllables, and the story revolves around "Big Friend". The whole first part of the adventure is cleaning up Big Friend's room. You can customize the bird you play as. You can, in fact, pet the bird.

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX: Pokemon, but with a focus on... the pokemon? Yeah it's an RPG, and there's fighting (like any pokemon game), but it has just enough plot that you'll be able to read for your daughter and help her along. [1] reviews it.

PIKMIN 3: It's Pikmin, there's really nothing else to say. It's cute, it's teamwork, but beware: There's a lot of (vaugely useful) dialog.

Katamari Damacy: Not super recommended, but worth a try if you're not familiar. The king of all cosmos has gotten himself "one with nature" (read: drunk off his petard) and dumped all the stars outta the sky. Lots of colors, but the difficulty curve is tough for a 4yo. Also there's a loud siren at the end of each level as you run out of time that spooked me the first time I was playing it.

Here Comes Niko!: You're Niko! Your goal is to make friends! Dialog-heavy in places, but with a little adult help, definitely doable!

The Unfinished Swan: perhaps a bit artsy, give it a glance and see if it's something you and your daughter would enjoy.

[1] https://youtu.be/qrvRbKiLZKI [2] https://www.gameinformer.com/games/journey/b/ps3/archive/201...

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

#386

Portal and Portal 2 are absolute classics which I cannot recommend highly enough. The story in the second game is fairly detailed, and the way that it tells that story through gameplay is absolutely phenomenal. Life Is Strange is a well-done adventure game. It's not quite *zero* violence in that the story takes some turns, but you're fundamentally a high schooler in a relatively normal setting, I wouldn't expect you…

Life is Strange was fantastic, but I wouldn't recommend it to OP. While it's not a game that revels in violence, the violence in it feels especially heavy.

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

#387

Subnautica is fantastic. A very nice mysterious story and amazing atmosphere. I think you might be able to kill the sea creatures, but I didn't as it is really not the point. If you don't have Thalassophobia yet, you will by the end!

Agreed. And highly recommend playing with music turned off for the most immersive experience IMO. I have some unforgettable moments from that game.

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

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Even counting only killing violence can come up in stories that aren't generally violent. For example, the Wingspan board game adaptation is great but could be seen as fairly violent considering the fish and mice shown as food, although even as a vegan I find that a quite different feel than the "shoot and kill stuff" games (although there is one more graphic card that is a bit disturbing). Of course that one doesn't have a story, so not really what you are looking for, but I find it relaxing to play music plus the bird sounds and it is a fairly quick game once you get used to it (AI is a bit slow, though).

I would also say something like Trails in the Sky, while violent in a number of different ways, has a quite different feel from FPS style violence and has an extremely extensive story (just the Sky series is likely 200-300 hours, so not the best recommendation when you have kids :/).

I avoid any kind of game with blood (unfortunately no blood options are not that common these days), although I find non-red blood much less disturbing. In addition to the story there is often a strategic element connected to the violence that and I appreciate games that try to do more complex stuff without violence. Card City Nights is one where there are card game battles instead of fighting (there are a few bits of the story that make it less enjoyable than it could have been but mostly it is wacky in a good way). If there is violence I much prefer it to be more cartoony and ideally not involve killing. The old SNES Donkey Kong Country games are great at that, not very violent to begin with IIRC and the violence is very cartoony.

Story could be considered in maybe four aspects: plot, world building, symbolism, and interpersonal interactions. IMO, games almost never have a decent plot. I find good world building and symbolism to be the most common.

Anyway, enough rambling and to repeat the above suggestions and more (with a note that my memory isn't great so I could easily be forgetting something):

Good less violent games with some kind of story:

* My Brother Rabbit - hidden object puzzle with minigames

* A Short Hike - platformer with flying mechanic and parkour racing

* Rime - finding stuff and light puzzles, heavy symbolism

* Little Bug - two-stick platformer again more symbolism heavy

* Card City Nights - wacky story with card game battles

* NyxQuest - another good platformer with unusual mechanics, minimal story

* SNES Donkey Kong Country series - excellent platformers with mostly environmental obstacles, minimal story

* Beatbuddy - music synchronized platformer, minimal story

* Calico - cat cafe and a magical island, lots of bugs but cute, minimal story

* The Witness - puzzle game, symbolism but not much story

* Botanicula - music heavy adventure game with cartoon violence

* Creaks - puzzle + adventure game with some cartoon volence

Good less violent games with no or almost no story:

* 140 - music synchronized platformer

* Timberborn - sim game with beavers

* Ostriv - traditional Ukranian village sim

* Wingspan - boardgame adaptation

* Cyber Hook - 3d grappling platformer

* Kerbal Space Program - can be quite violent if you aren't careful or don't retry when things go wrong :/

Not low volence but good story or setting:

* 8doors - gameplay similar to Hollow Knight with an afterlife setting inspired by Korean folktales

* Trails in the Sky - likely most extensive story in a game series with turn-based battles and some volent themes in the story

There is a DRM-free game store focused on story heavy games called Fireflower Games. I think it is run by one person in Sweden and has a small selection of mostly adventure games (and not necessarily low violence but generally less violent). I haven't purchased anything there (not a big fan of adventure games) but it might be worth a look.

https://fireflowergames.com

Everything I mentioned is available on GOG, although Calico isn't kept up to date there unfortunately.

Re: Ask HN: Non-violent video games with great stories?

#390

I really liked the story of Celeste, not super deep but the gameplay is super smooth, and the art is gorgeous. It has the perfect balance of being difficult but not difficult enough to get mad at (except a few levels...).

The storytelling of Celeste is great! You build quite a connection to the characters when you grind through levels for hours...

And I'm pretty sure I cried at the end.

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