As a German I would like to point out, that German companies are (as always) too late to the party. Nothing with worldwide relevance in the software, AI nor cloud space came out of Germany / the EU within in the last decades. It's embarrassing :(
Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
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Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
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Which is why most of them hire consulting shops, as they see IT as a pure cost center.
The irony is that a lot of the consulting shops that specialize in assisting the mittelstand are utterly horrendous money pits. In my capacity as CTO for a german mittelstand company I have had to fire over 80% of the consulting shops i worked with for either blatant incompetence (developing a plugin that fits none of the design document, deploying it straight to production and in the process blowing up the entire AP…
Usually it boils down to escalations where management gets some goodies from the offshore agency and then everything is good again, from management point of view, naturally.
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
#123As a German I would like to point out, that German companies are (as always) too late to the party. Nothing with worldwide relevance in the software, AI nor cloud space came out of Germany / the EU within in the last decades. It's embarrassing :(
I think we (Europe) need a Shenzhen-like zone (probably between France and Germany). That is a tax-free (15%) english speaking tech zone.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's literally only a problem because the US laws allow the US government to force MS / Google / Amazon to hand over all data stored by German companies on data residing in German datacenters located inside Germany, if an American company is running them. That bullshit caused us a huge amount of headaches when we wanted to deploy our COVID systems to Azure...
CMEK was introduced for this. NSA can have the data but won’t ever read it
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
#125There is literally all kinds of mirrored services (from Dropbox to now apparently this, AWS) in Germany, in case one feels paranoid about respecting local privacy legislations (ie GDPR) and feeling that no foreign government/court order (possibly with a gag order for anyone to ever know) compromises the data.
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
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I guess Lidl targets German Mittelstand and DAX40 companies that already have outsourced to other cloud vendors or are in trouble with their legacy infrastructure. How many of the startups you have in mind didn't switch their infra once they grew? I know not a single one.
Yeah, but the thing is, why would they switch away from AWS/Azure/... unless forced to by regulation? Existing cloud providers can scale to planet sized businesses.
On top of obvious reason everybody knows damn too well - any US 3-letter agency doesn't give a nanofraction of a f*k about privacy and will use any data to gain any advantage, and specifically treats non US-citizens as subhumans when it comes to several human rights. Geolocation is only theoretical guarantee when stakes are so high.
Some are OK with that, some are not.
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
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I don't disagree with your remarks about startups and big "software" companies, or rather the lack thereof in the EU. However, that's not even what Schwarz is targeting here. They are targeting the IT departments of existing companies that aren't necessarily in the tech space at all. I know of a bunch of companies who'd love to move a lot of their stuff into a managed cloud, but wouldn't touch a US-owned cloud for co…
> However, that's not even what Schwarz is targeting here. They are targeting the IT departments of existing companies that aren't necessarily in the tech space at all. This is just giving up. AWS and the also rans are better at everything than companies whose executives play golf well, the serious companies you speak of. If the business plan is to target businesses that aren’t really in software and they don’t plan…
There are plenty of corporations in Germany that chug along since generation with essentially no profits on their balance sheets.
As long as salaries are paid, you provide a living for your employees, as long as customers are happy, you provide value to the economy. When you have your established niche you do not need growth.
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
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> Nothing with worldwide relevance in the software, AI nor cloud space came out of Germany / the EU within in the last decades. Let me list some: * Teamviewer: used to be more famous in the past but it is still a known brand to people world wide * Cherry: more of a hardware thing, but they are known world-wide for their MX switches * Deepl: a xoogler founded startup that is better than Google translate * Soundcloud:…
these are exceptions US produces more unicorns per year that Germany managed in 20 years https://news.crunchbase.com/unicorn-company-list/
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
#129As a German I would like to point out, that German companies are (as always) too late to the party. Nothing with worldwide relevance in the software, AI nor cloud space came out of Germany / the EU within in the last decades. It's embarrassing :(
> Nothing with worldwide relevance in the software, AI nor cloud space came out of Germany / the EU within in the last decades. Let me list some: * Teamviewer: used to be more famous in the past but it is still a known brand to people world wide * Cherry: more of a hardware thing, but they are known world-wide for their MX switches * Deepl: a xoogler founded startup that is better than Google translate * Soundcloud:…
Re: Lidl’s parent company launches cloud unit to offer ‘Made in Germany’ AWS rival
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which is why most of them hire consulting shops, as they see IT as a pure cost center.
The irony is that a lot of the consulting shops that specialize in assisting the mittelstand are utterly horrendous money pits. In my capacity as CTO for a german mittelstand company I have had to fire over 80% of the consulting shops i worked with for either blatant incompetence (developing a plugin that fits none of the design document, deploying it straight to production and in the process blowing up the entire AP…
(disclaimer, worked as a contractor)