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Really? What if it includes alcohol sales? Do you want the state to know how much alcohol you consume?
In case you were unaware, all liquor stores in Norway are run by the government — “vinmonopolet” as they are called. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinmonopolet
"SSB claims they want a less time-consuming way of collecting and analysing household consumption statistics in order to inform tax policy, social assistance and child allowance." Aka the more we know about you, the more efficiently we can create policies to control your behavior to our liking.
You're already being tracked by the grocery stores, wouldn't it be better to be tracked by someone who at least tries to have your best interests at heart vs. the grocery industry who just wants to sell you more?
And that's to say nothing of the fact that, at least in the US, about 50% of the entire population at any given time tend NOT to believe that the government has their best interest in mind
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If you're talking about the tracking done by reward systems then that's a voluntary agreement that people enter into. You can choose not to use a rewards program. As far as I know, if you use a credit card they only know the total of how much you spent and once again you can choose not to use a credit card or bank card and pay with cash if you wish. This proposed data collection has no opt out option. It's kind of ex…
What if the government said it was optional, but those who sign up get a 2% discount on their taxes? Would you find that more acceptable?
I went and checked various online papers with comment sections, and the comments have been massively negative to this. This is apparently not something people will easily accept, so it remains to be seen what happens.
Since when do governments care about what people think? Even with mass demonstrations they typically hardly move an inch.
“Hello #3576. You have reached your 1kg monthly limit of natural meat. Please consult the official list for alternatives.”
People seem to suddenly forget that these transactions are already tracked and individually linked to you. Should we allow anyone to collect that data except democratically elected governments? What's the logic behind this?
In most countries, paying in cash is a thing. And I try to avoid paying with cards or e-payment as much as I can
some random articles: https://sweden.se/life/society/a-cashless-society https://interestingengineering.com/sweden-how-to-live-in-the...
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Doing stuff like this today is going to be 100x better than what people 3 generations from now will have to live through thanks to climate change. The question is whether we’re willing to inconvenience ourselves today to protect future generations - and the answer is looking like no.
The answer is no for stupid solutions like tracking everybody’s meat consumption and a government limiting it. You will be swiftly told to fuck off (and rightly so). You need to get people on your side and contributing without massively changing their lifestyles, instead of alienating them. We need massive reductions in business contributions to climate change and we need investment in current clean energy solutions…
Those "business contributions to climate change" exist because they're producing goods that consumers want; you can't significantly reduce that without also affecting consumer lifestyles, by reducing the options for the number of goods, or making them more expensive.
Further research in clean energy is all very nice, but that's what I've been hearing for 25 years, and if we look at what has actually been accomplished then I think it's a pretty big gamble to bet that "further research" will all make things work out.
The last 100 years or so have been quite exceptional in many ways; I think the expectation that younger generations will have it at least as good as the previous one is just not realistic.
People seem to suddenly forget that these transactions are already tracked and individually linked to you. Should we allow anyone to collect that data except democratically elected governments? What's the logic behind this?
In most countries, paying in cash is a thing. And I try to avoid paying with cards or e-payment as much as I can
Russia does that already country-wise. Every receipt is sent to federal taxes office instantly, every cash register is connected to the internet.