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Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#61
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“Hello #3576. You have reached your 1kg monthly limit of natural meat. Please consult the official list for alternatives.”

Doing stuff like this today is going to be 100x better than what people 3 generations from now will have to live through thanks to climate change.

The question is whether we’re willing to inconvenience ourselves today to protect future generations - and the answer is looking like no.

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#63

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In most countries, paying in cash is a thing. And I try to avoid paying with cards or e-payment as much as I can

You must have hella change laying around.

Not much, because I also pay in coins in exact amounts.

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#64
post #17

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Really? What if it includes alcohol sales? Do you want the state to know how much alcohol you consume?

The state owns the only alcohol store.

> The state owns the only alcohol store.

How do they feel about being responsible of delivering poison to people then? Somehow I can rationalize it if it's a transaction between private parties, but if the government acts as the drug dealer it's no better than a cartel.

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#65

Worth remembering the whole reason this can even be suggested is that Scandies tend to have high trust. Not saying there won't be similar voices to what is in this comment section, but plenty of Norwegians will take this at face value, an honest attempt to gather socially useful information, part of a tradition that has historically functioned reasonably well.

Then why explicitly link the data to people’s national ID numbers? If analyzing societal trends were the only purpose of this initiative, anonymized (or for some applications, aggregated) data would work equally well.

The article already answers this:

"When the purchases are linked to a household, it will be possible in the consumption statistics to analyze socio-economic and regional differences in consumption, and link it to variables such as income, education and place of residence."

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#66
post #14

"SSB claims they want a less time-consuming way of collecting and analysing household consumption statistics in order to inform tax policy, social assistance and child allowance." Aka the more we know about you, the more efficiently we can create policies to control your behavior to our liking.

Or to tax you more efficiently.

Isn’t that just what sales tax is for? Another comment mentioned increasing your tax bracket if you bought too much meat, but trivially they could just add a sales tax on meat instead to the same effect.

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#67

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In most countries, paying in cash is a thing. And I try to avoid paying with cards or e-payment as much as I can

You must have hella change laying around.

I don't know about him, but my Safeway has a change machine up front. You can either get the total in cash, minus commission, or store credit for the whole amount.

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#69
post #36

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> Please consult the official list for alternatives.” More likely a new way to tax stuff that the government does not like. Eating too much red-meat from methane-producing cows? Extra climate change tax for you!

Can’t they just add a meat sales tax to accomplish that?

Or just measure the methane output and charge the farmers a tax on that directly. That would give them incentive to feed their cows that methane reducing seaweed.

Re: Norway to track all supermarket purchases?

#70
post #3

Can you pay cash?

Yeah you could haha I think the majority of the public wouldn't care about their food purchases being tracked.

the majority of the public wouldn't care about their food purchases being tracked.

Citizen #83238201: You have exceeded your yearly purchasing quota for condoms and thrush medication. Please report to your nearest moral re-education camp.

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