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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#102
This is early 2000s thinking where you believe people will read things. Audio, video, and images are what the masses consume in bulk, and to make money in advertising you need to use one of those formats.

You'd make far more converting your content to a podcast or YouTube channel and using affiliate product placement.

Anything else becomes a cat and mouse game with ad blockers.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#104

This is early 2000s thinking where you believe people will read things. Audio, video, and images are what the masses consume in bulk, and to make money in advertising you need to use one of those formats. You'd make far more converting your content to a podcast or YouTube channel and using affiliate product placement. Anything else becomes a cat and mouse game with ad blockers.

This is Squidoo and HubPages reincarnated. Both failed, nothing new

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#105
post #59

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This needs to be higher up. If you go to the about section of Yep.com, you can see this is powered by the "Ahrefs" bot (not just for sourcing crawler data but also run by the same people). Ahrefs is a sleazy "SEO tool" ( https://ahrefs.com/pricing ) that basically exists to exploit weaknesses in search engine algorithms and other shady things (and make lots of money doing it -- $99/mo to $999/mo).

Been using ahrefs for years, not sure what is sleazy about it. It audits your site for issues, shows Google rankings for keywords, estimated volume for keywords, backlinks to specific sites, backlinks to specific pages...etc. It doesn't do anything for SEO (no content, no links...etc), it simply reports on the state of affairs.

SEO itself is sleazy. Any gaming of search is sleazy, whether active or passive. The NSA is sleazy, even though they simply report on "the state of affairs".

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#106
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The profit share section ( https://yep.com/profit-share ) doesn't have any details as to how it works, which doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

How is this even supposed to function? It's as if Grubhub went and said they're now doing delivery from every single restaurant in the US

It would work like any other 3rd party website verification, e.g. some of these options that Google uses for their webmaster tools:

https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9008080?hl=en#c...

Uploading a file that contains a token and then serving that file at a specified URL is common.

So, you'd need to go and claim the money that yep.com is apparently going to keep track of for each site or subdomain.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#108

I don't trust Ahrefs at all. The whole SEO industry is tainted, and Ahrefs is not a good part of it. I don't want a search engine that pays "creators" (a search engine finds things, if they want to monetize it it is after it is found). I want a search engine that runs exactly as many ads as are needed to pay for itself, nothing more. Preferably with an option to pay for myself as an option. I'm guessing that means ht…

What are your thoughts on Neeva?

Not OP, but I loved Neeva’s results. That being said, it’s a bit too personalized to my liking. For example, it automatically detected my location to display the weather, and the app’s search history cannot be disabled without private mode. For a “private” search engine, it did way too many personalizations by default. These few things, and a somewhat confusing UI made me switch to Orion (Kagi).

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#109
post #70
post #59

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This needs to be higher up. If you go to the about section of Yep.com, you can see this is powered by the "Ahrefs" bot (not just for sourcing crawler data but also run by the same people). Ahrefs is a sleazy "SEO tool" ( https://ahrefs.com/pricing ) that basically exists to exploit weaknesses in search engine algorithms and other shady things (and make lots of money doing it -- $99/mo to $999/mo).

This whole yep.com thing feels like an attempt to get everyone to please stop blocking their bot

Dumb question but would they not rotate bots in a situation like this? Or do they have a specific crawler

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

#110
post #38

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I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail “Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

To be honest I'm not even quite sure what you mean when you say "film stores". It could mean stores that sell photographic film, or stores that sell movies. Presumably you mean the former, but I certainly wouldn't call stores that sell film as "film stores". They'd most likely be photography stores or maybe at big box/department/pharmacies. In that respect, asking for "film stores" is like asking for "bacon stores".

Even if you don't understand the intent, google does. That is what makes it so good. So do a few others. After you compare, yep has a ways to go :)

https://www.google.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://yep.com/web?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://neeva.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://search.brave.com/search?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Film+store+in+los+angeles

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