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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by ecommerceguy »

paulcole wrote: post #37
Method-X wrote: post #35

I love how there are now many little search engines trying to differentiate themselves from Google. A few others worth checking out are: 1. https://search.brave.com (they use their own index / my personal favourite) 2. https://kagi.com 3. https://neeva.com

This Yep thing isn’t a search engine. It’s a content-marketing campaign for Ahrefs. They don’t want to compete with Google. They want press for themselves.

AHREFS has 2 things going for it: 1. a freaking giant crawled index, 2. a freaking giant pile of metadata on google search rankings.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by icehawk »

thyrox wrote: post #12

Ahrefs is the biggest reason why Google results are so bad nowadays. While they call it SEO, this site gives you the very metrics which every so called SEOer uses to game Google search results (and it's very good tbh). I hope they are ready to face the seo monster they have created and yep can't be gamed as easily.

As a network operator that runs a number of websites I'm honestly one step away from null routing all of their traffic. I'm constantly seeing their bots and as far as I know it's not helping anything.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by botsbreeder »

shannifin wrote: post #13

Sounds nice, I'm all for more search engine competition even regardless of the revenue share model. I'm curious how exactly they pay creators though? If I had a super-popular blog that got millions of hits a month through search, does that mean they'll send me a check or something? Also, what about sites like YouTube that mainly host content created freely by others?

This is how we see it. Your content is helpful to people, your content helps search engine to provide relevant results, relevant results help search engine to keep user base and get revenue from ads. Search engines could be supporting people creating helpful content. But they are not. Google does it in Youtube. So if you create good video you can make living from it, but if you write a good blog you can't live from it. Unless you put affiliate links, ads or maybe paywall.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by swinnipeg »

nacs wrote: post #59
SahAssar wrote: post #24

I don't trust Ahrefs at all. The whole SEO industry is tainted, and Ahrefs is not a good part of it. I don't want a search engine that pays "creators" (a search engine finds things, if they want to monetize it it is after it is found). I want a search engine that runs exactly as many ads as are needed to pay for itself, nothing more. Preferably with an option to pay for myself as an option. I'm guessing that means ht…

This needs to be higher up. If you go to the about section of Yep.com, you can see this is powered by the "Ahrefs" bot (not just for sourcing crawler data but also run by the same people). Ahrefs is a sleazy "SEO tool" ( https://ahrefs.com/pricing ) that basically exists to exploit weaknesses in search engine algorithms and other shady things (and make lots of money doing it -- $99/mo to $999/mo).

Been using ahrefs for years, not sure what is sleazy about it.

It audits your site for issues, shows Google rankings for keywords, estimated volume for keywords, backlinks to specific sites, backlinks to specific pages...etc.

It doesn't do anything for SEO (no content, no links...etc), it simply reports on the state of affairs.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by botsbreeder »

Gualdrapo wrote: post #8

Bummer it does not have image search. Still have to use Google because its image search - specially the file type filter, and letting search for things like SVGs.

Image search is coming. We have it working but it is not fast enough yet.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by aaaaaaaaata »

senojsitruc wrote: post #48
lelandfe wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d encourage all those who believe this is just a keyword issue to try to find a search on Yep that produces film stores in LA. I just tried like 10 incantations to no avail “Film store in los angeles” gives me DVD stores on yellowpages.com as the 3rd result…

Similarly, I searched for the name of my product (Streamie) and just got porn results.

I mean..

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by [deleted] »

nacs wrote: post #59
SahAssar wrote: post #24

I don't trust Ahrefs at all. The whole SEO industry is tainted, and Ahrefs is not a good part of it. I don't want a search engine that pays "creators" (a search engine finds things, if they want to monetize it it is after it is found). I want a search engine that runs exactly as many ads as are needed to pay for itself, nothing more. Preferably with an option to pay for myself as an option. I'm guessing that means ht…

This needs to be higher up. If you go to the about section of Yep.com, you can see this is powered by the "Ahrefs" bot (not just for sourcing crawler data but also run by the same people). Ahrefs is a sleazy "SEO tool" ( https://ahrefs.com/pricing ) that basically exists to exploit weaknesses in search engine algorithms and other shady things (and make lots of money doing it -- $99/mo to $999/mo).

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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by botsbreeder »

throwaway2016a wrote: post #9
daolf wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, they build everything and it costed them $60m. That’s an impressive bet. And without funding! https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/03/yep-search-engine/amp/?guc...

I wonder if they are including in that the money they already invested in the Ahrefs SEO tools. It seems to me that their SEO tools were already crawling a lot of content so this may be an extension of that / a new way to monetize the data. I personally know a lot of people who pay for their SEO tools so I imagine they have a decent amount of revenue.

There is a lot of intersection between Ahrefs tools and search. We were collecting web data for Ahrefs tools for 12 years, now we repurpose these data for Yep.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by botsbreeder »

slater wrote: post #6
daolf wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, they build everything and it costed them $60m. That’s an impressive bet. And without funding! https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/03/yep-search-engine/amp/?guc...

downside: doesn't seem to care much for boolean ("-keyword") search terms, instead opting for the modern thing of "let's actually search for that keyword, too!" v______v

No boolean search yet.
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