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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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I don't understand why people would want to work for this guy? To any Tesla employees, whats your take on this? I can imagine having a CEO like this must be super stressful!

Interesting work. Robotic factories, Fool Self Driving, Machine Learning on huge real-world dataset, etc, etc.

>... Fool Self Driving...

One of those moments where the typo feels a lot more accurate than the correct word.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#562

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Given how terminally online and meme-aware he is, there is no way he doesn't spend a significant part of his waking day just browsing shitposts.

I understand the desire of people to hate others just because others a richer but I’ve seen a bit too much assumption about how he runs his company from people and how he should be spending his time in their opinion, and it’s not just Elon Musk that gets this. Which CEO would be better, one that gets on the assembly line of the product and spends 80 hours a week helping employees put together the product, or a CEO th…

What does his net worth have to do with the fact that he’s obviously spending hours a day looking at the latest memes?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e... "Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office. "Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?" Commenters' general feeling was…

Commenters' general feeling was that it was a soft layoff, and some speculated that it might amount to constructive dismissal.

Another instance of Tesla violating labor laws, this time to get out of paying unemployment....

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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It's not just hermits that live far from urban centers in the US. The US is famous for sprawling contiguous suburbs. Subway systems work well when people commute from the edges of a city to an urban center. Throw US suburbs into the mix, and you get some strange complications, like: * suburbs that from adjacent cities that sprawl together -- the residents there may commute to different cities * suburban office parks…

> It's not just hermits that live far from urban centers in the US. The US is famous for sprawling contiguous suburbs. Sprawling suburbs can be, and often are, served by public transportation. The critical factor affecting the US approach to public transportation, which is purely ideological, is the neoliberal belief that public transportation services are only worth considering if they are provided by private corpor…

I'm not really saying it can't be done. I'm just saying that, comparatively, this puts the US at a huge disadvantage. It requires a larger investment per rider, and when you're done, you still have a metro area that was specifically designed to be convenient for drivers that your transport system must compete with.

I worked a job for several years where I could have taken either bus or light rail to work. I still chose to drive because I already had a car, my car had more privacy, I didn’t have to go outside in the weather, and I had more autonomy.

For public transit to compete, it has to be someone’s best option. Being usable is not good enough to cause people to switch.

Yes, you could build it all anyway, and that’s probably the only long-term solution. But it’s not politically popular. If not for budgetary reasons, then because people don’t want construction interfering with their drive.

In the end, I feel like we’re better off just concentrating on public transit in the neighborhoods that want to use it.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Oh god I demonstrate how the timestamped quote is incorrect and now I've attracted the attention of the Musk anti-fans. Let me be clear: Musk is human. He has positive and negative qualities. His Thailand pedo comments were, to put it bluntly, fucking retarded. His autopilot timeline was wildly optimistic. His behavior on Twitter is infantile. And yet this is not carte blanche to twist his words into something unreco…

Guy says he will provide a brain implant to upload human memories to a computer and says he CAN fix a whole range of brain and spine damage, plus diseases that are not even caused by brain injury, and you focus on the disclaimer that will not be "right away"?

You continue to not say anything concrete.

Lots of technologists speak about the potential of technology/industry/science. Roasting Musk for dreaming big is the best you can come up with? Especially given the other material he gives you?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Or were the sexual assault allegations part of the political attacks on him? How would you tell?

There was a settlement. He can sue for defamation.

Generally, the fact of a settlement would preclude him from winning a defamation suit, since introducing the existence of the settlement would satisfy the defendant's bar of establishing affirmatively that there was some sort of actionable sexual harassment at the "more likely than not" threshold for civil cases.

Additionally, the existence of the settlement would likely make any suit for defamation fun afoul of the anti-SLAPP laws.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Why would anyone use Fremont BART when Warm Springs BART almost abuts the Tesla factory?

Fair, but it's still 27 minutes from there to the factory on public transit, so not quite "abuts". I know you can take the company shuttle, but the point is that the public transit system isn't very practical end to end. I actually would give Tesla a bit of a pass on this since it is a factory purchased from GM/Toyota and it inherently needs lots of space, so you can't expect a train station at the factory gate. Tech…

There's a footbridge from the BART station to the Tesla site. I don't know why someone would waste their time trying to take public transit from the station to Tesla. It's 1-2km depending on which side of their gigantic facility a person needs to reach.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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The fact remains that Musk is the techbro Kanye West, and shareholders should sideline him.

Find me another person that has his expertise in business, finances, marketing, mass manufacturing and aerospace industry. Find me another car executive that would have been bold enough to do something like Tesla Giga Castings before Elon decided to go for it. There are 4 entities to date that delivered people to Earth orbit: - Russia - USA - China - SpaceX There is only one entity that made rocket reuability profita…

Gwynne Shotwell is the reason SpaceX is successful today, and generally, every time SpaceX has an unexpected failure rather than a success, it's because Musk showed up to the facilities and started making silly demands.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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I understand the desire of people to hate others just because others a richer but I’ve seen a bit too much assumption about how he runs his company from people and how he should be spending his time in their opinion, and it’s not just Elon Musk that gets this. Which CEO would be better, one that gets on the assembly line of the product and spends 80 hours a week helping employees put together the product, or a CEO th…

> I understand the desire of people to hate others just because others a richer... Is that the case, though. I for one don't care if Musk is the wealthiest person on Earth, or just some random middle class Joe. Fact is, he absolutely _loves_ to tout how much harder and longer he works than anyone else. That alone screams "bad leader" all around, and in my experience, anyone going public on matters like this, is overc…

I don’t think Elon did public insult his workers, he said he doesn’t appreciate workers that don’t work, are they even workers at that point? It’s like if I said I hate when someone steals from me, does that mean I hate you? If so they you are probably a thief. I get you have an opinion of him and that’s fine but how nice and humble a leader is is only a minor factor. What you get when hyper focused on tiny, in my opinion insignificant details and not the big picture is a poor judgement. Forget all the improvements and leaps forward his companies have made because a few times he said good things about himself? Your going to tell me in an interview you have never boasted and pretend none of those leaders you mentioned have ever talked about hard much work it took to get where they are? In actuality those leaders have written entire books on how good of a leader they are and what it takes to be one. I’m still trying to figure out what has irked so many people that Elon did?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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post #78

I wonder if him coming out as a Republic was a similar tactic as the "return to office" memo? He might be thinking he can get 5% of the people to quit just based on differences in values, making his remaining employees more homogenous and giving them a common culture.

I wonder if him coming out as a Republic was a similar tactic as the "return to office" memo?

He came as Republican not as a Republic. Give it a few more years.

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