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Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Uh,ok... Two days ago the "Who is hiring" thread here had something like 20+ software engineering positions for Tesla. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31585021 More erratic decision making from Mr Musk. Like, I dunno, the time he told Twitter he was taking Tesla private while tripping on LSD. He needs to step aside from Tesla at this point.

Companies are instituting freezes but keeping jobs posted. It creates an outside illusion of success and growth.

It’s also tied to strategy. Eg traditional auto is laying of combustion engine folks and hiring battery folks.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#272

A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e... "Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office. "Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?" Commenters' general feeling was…

I know a lawyer who works exclusively in the tech space, who’s dealt with Musk companies a number of times. He said they use the slimiest tactics he’s ever seen, are constantly acting in bad faith. Would not surprise me one bit if this was an attempt to get people to quit so he could avoid paying severance.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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The thing is, Tesla isn't a Coinbase. Tesla is now a giant manufacturing company that makes a lot of things, brings in revenue, and has some really solid engineering. I don't like their cars from a UX standpoint, but the engineering in their motors and battery packs are solid good products. Move fast and break things might have been fine in the early days. Seems to me like the company needs to 'grow up' and demonstra…

I agree with the spirit of this; but… This specific pattern, switching suddenly from "thousands of open positions" to “freeze and maybe layoffs” is typical for large large, mature, professionally managed companies.

It's typical only where there is a huge macroeconomic shock like in 2001 or 2009, or because those large companies were either horribly managed (i.e. outdated business model). None of that is true right now with respect to Tesla...huge increased in oil prices recently should actually make EV's "cheaper" in comparison.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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This reminds me of Musk's recent comments about "political attacks against him in the coming days". It has since been learned that he had been reached by Business Insider to comment about the sexual abuse case beforehand. He already knew that an article against him was coming so he framed the narrative before it even reached the public. I would not be surprised this was the same here. Tell everyone "Leave if you don'…

Yeah, since the BI story – and in particular his attempt to frontrun it and turn his personal legal troubles into a culture war battleground – I think we can assume pretty slimy tactics from Musk.

Slimy tactics?

From the person that said one of his companies can fix Spinal and Brain injuries?: https://youtu.be/cgyFL5Hzy-s?t=1312

Surely...

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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That’s neat, but the USA has garbage public transport. Many towns just have none. I think it’s unreasonable to expect people to use a resource that just isn’t there in most cases.

The fact that the USA hasn't invested in the necessary infrastructure doesn't change the conclusion that efficient public transport systems (see Europe, see China) have huge benefits relative to a system that relies almost entirely on individual vehicles.

I live near a rapid bus line in Seattle. One stop is a block away from my house, and the other stop is 2 blocks from the office.

The traffic to the office is always awful, so a pleasant ride to the office, skipping traffic via dedicated bus lanes on the route, without needing to drive, sounds great to me in principle. I WANT to like this. I WANT to use this. But, there are several problems with it in practice.

For me, the bus is still significantly slower than driving because of all of the stops, even though it skips car traffic. For my wife, who needs to walk 10 blocks from the bus stop to her office, it's even slower.

My wife and I both get motion sick, especially if I don't get a forward facing seat.

Other people riding the bus smoke drugs, don't clean themselves & smell awful, scream loudly & incoherently, etc.

On the 10 block walk from the stop to her office, my wife saw homeless folks fighting, some screaming, and other smoking fentanyl. As a small woman, she did not feel safe, and informed me she wouldn't be taking the bus again. With our car, she can drive directly to the secured parking garage in her office, no safety risk.

We're going to stick to the safety, security, and speed of the car, thanks. It's not the lack of infrastructure, public transit is just a much worse experience.

None of this will get better, our transit agency doesn't even have the guts to reduce fare evasion via real enforcement because of the wacky political climate here.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/sound-transit-fare-...

Find a way to make public transit clean & safe and we'd probably ignore the other negatives listed above. Unfortunately, the political climate in the US in areas with adequate public transit makes that impossible.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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> bad. I think it'll be worse. Different. 2007/08 was a financial crisis, and global banking infrastructure almost imploded. Here we're talking about deglobalization, supply chain issues and, well, a war . What's interesting is that the main problems may not be US focussed, it may happen around the world (although no one will be safe). For example, hard to imagine the Canadian real estate sector isn't going to melt d…

"For example, hard to imagine the Canadian real estate sector isn't going to melt down..." - Oh, how many times did I hear that, but it's wishful thinking. At best it's 20% down

bear in mind that 20% down is often times losing 100% of your capital due to leverage.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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The fact that the USA hasn't invested in the necessary infrastructure doesn't change the conclusion that efficient public transport systems (see Europe, see China) have huge benefits relative to a system that relies almost entirely on individual vehicles.

You're having a conversation with a person you're imagining. Nobody is disagreeing that systems built around transit/biking/etc are better than car-oriented ones. They're saying that an individual in the latter system may still need to drive. In case you've forgotten, your original comment was in response to a specific individual, suggesting that he didn't need to drive.

Google "man walks to work" for heartwarming tales about the kindness of strangers in dystopian Third World America. White-collar workers now get to experience the blue-collar reality that neoliberalism created. Fun times for all, and remember, shared suffering builds community consciousness. Let's all eat cake together!

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

#280

A couple of days ago somebody posted this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/v2lpdw/e... "Tesla expanded massively during Covid, as of now half of the dev team(including me) don’t have parking space or desk. It’s physically impossible for everyone to return to office. "Should I ignore the email, or should I drive to the office and sit under the stairs?" Commenters' general feeling was…

Maybe Elon read https://www.richardkmorgan.com/writing/market-forces/ and thought it was a good time to implement capitalism 2.0. He's got the cars, the engineers, open roads in Texas, and the vision, he can make it happen!
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