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Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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When you saw only one set of tracking cookies, it was then that Mark Zuckerberg was carrying you.

For others who didn't get the reference, it's a Christian poem called "footprints in the sand": > When you saw only one set of footprints, > It was then that I carried you. https://www.onlythebible.com/Poems/Footprints-in-the-Sand-Po...

When you saw only one set of footprints,

that's when I bailed because you wouldn't shut up about your keto diet.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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"According to an April 21, 2022 report in The Wall Street Journal, Sandberg was part of a coordinated campaign to prevent the Daily Mail from publishing a story about a temporary restraining order given to Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick, by a former girlfriend. At the time of the order, Kotick and Sandberg were dating. Reportedly, in 2016 and 2019, Sandberg and Kotick worked with a team including Facebook and Activision employees to devise a strategy to convince the Mail not to publish the article. The article stated that Facebook is now reviewing whether Sandberg violated the company's rules."

"An investigative report from The Wall Street Journal in November 2021 identified that despite his earlier claim, Kotick had been well aware of the past allegations mentioned in the California lawsuit but did nothing to change corporate policy, and had protected an employee who sexually harassed from being fired. Further, the report asserted that Kotick himself had threatened to kill an assistant on their voice mail.1 Activision Blizzard's board issued a statement that supported Kotick's efforts to lead the company,2 while employees, shareholders, and other voices from the industry urged Kotick to resign or to be replaced in light of these allegations.3,4,5"

1 https://www.wsj.com/articles/activision-videogames-bobby-kot...

2 https://www.wired.com/story/activision-blizzard-employees-do...

3 https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/11/17/bobby-...

4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/11/18/activi...

5 https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/18/22789679/activision-bliz...

6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_...

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Everybody realizes it's wrong. The issue is not a lack of understanding. The issue is the lack of an alternative. People will not pay a penny for the vast majority of the internet, whether they be social networks or just plain websites. They won't donate either or do "micro transactions", not at the scale in which ads currently deliver revenue. So for the vast majority of the internet, no ads = no money. And it ends…

I was recently taken aback by how much some of the online major destinations make per site load with ads. It is over $.04 USD. People visit hundreds of pages per day. What consumer will pay over $10 daily to access content that is free with ads?

Exactly. Nobody.

Ads are here to stay. At best they may do less tracking in the future, but they remain.

Another unpopular thought...in a fully online, digitized society, how are companies supposed to advertise their existence or their products if there's no ads?

Not my problem, many would say. Well, it is your problem. Because you probably work at a company and they sell things.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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For real, it almost read like a thinly veiled burn on Mark to me. Like, "give me some space Mark, you don't need to be up in my business constantly".

I think you're both choosing to believe the reality you want to be true, as opposed to the one that actually is. To interpret her comment they way both of you are doing seems like reaching at best, and malicious at worst. I am no fan of FB or Zuck, but come on.

Malicious? I think Zuck will be fine, mentioning that a sentence about him sounded kind of passive aggressive isn't exactly my definition of malicious.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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I’m not convinced anyone else would have done anything different. I don’t believe this is a case of “the wrong people in the right place” since any unregulated massive opportunity in history has gone this way. Saying the wrong people were in charge robs us of learning for next time. More useful to say that this is a lesson in human nature and we should prepare for the next Facebook accordingly.

Not sure I believe this. Instagram could’ve conceivably killed Facebook a decade ago if they’d chosen not to sell. Reminds me of Steve Jobs talking about Microsoft bringing about the dark ages of desktop computing: https://512pixels.net/2010/05/the-desktop-computer-industry-... .

The dark age of social networks was absolutely started the second Facebook bought Instagram. We're still in it.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Also, how does a buyer including the text "money order" not trigger automatic fraud enforcement?

craigslist also has this problem, and it does seem pretty easily fixable, to my naive eyes: someone has said "your price is fair, my agent will be over to pick it up with a cashier's check" for every single thing I've sold on craigslist. I don't think filtering out scumbags like this is a terribly hard problem.

Is the cashier's check fake? What happens if you meet them at the listed bank and ask them to convert it to cash right there?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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> The quality of posts On Marketplace?! This blows my mind that you think this. It's a chaotic nightmare. Sellers post everything as free and then separately negotiate a price. Buyers repeatedly ask you if something's still available. Both of these mean something's very wrong with how people understand to use the system.

Plus the scams. There are tonnes and tonnes of them that get reported to us every day. I'm not sure what Facebook are doing to combat it, but it's clearly not working.

Plus the obviously stolen goods.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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The degree to which the main FB product rotted during the last few years was extreme. Scrolling FB was still a daily activity for me until the medium was overtaken by outrage. It seems like FB goosed conflict on the platform until everyone decided they’d had enough and left or stopped posting. There is nothing in the newsfeed from my contacts at this point, the feed is either entirely ads or bottom barrel MLM scams.…

have you considered that maybe facebook is giving you content based on other datapoints about you? Aside from the occasional scam ad, I mostly get animal videos from facebook.

Possible, but what does that say about their algorithm that they only give me stuff I don't want? At this point I login to FB maybe once a month to check community groups for my neighborhood.

Animals could be a similar “no fill” response reflecting that your network doesn't have much going on.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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craigslist also has this problem, and it does seem pretty easily fixable, to my naive eyes: someone has said "your price is fair, my agent will be over to pick it up with a cashier's check" for every single thing I've sold on craigslist. I don't think filtering out scumbags like this is a terribly hard problem.

Is the cashier's check fake? What happens if you meet them at the listed bank and ask them to convert it to cash right there?

Why would any reputable person be dealing with a cashier’s cheque in this century?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Each of these: Markeplace, Forums, Messenger are non sticky and with countless alternatives. For example one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people. I still use Craigslist, I think it works better and has better organization of categories. The main Facebook app, now that is a unique product - yet frankly, from my perspective it feels completely marginalized, the content there is in w…

Completely disagree. Those three things are all gated by intense network effects. Social media type products are generally as sticky as they come. Facebook will continue to be the platform that everyone uses, because who wants to be on a marketplace or messaging app that doesn't have the most people? > one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people I guess theoretically, but in reality,…

> who wants to be on a marketplace or messaging app that doesn't have the most people?

But it doesn't have the most people. I have long lost that sense that FB is where everyone is. That feels so 2016

> Apple realized this with iMessage

In general iMessage is not a good example because it a product that leverages the unique position of Apple owning the hardware. No other company can play the same game. Apple don't want you to use iMessage on other systems, they deliberately make the experience worse for Android. But who else can afford that?

You definitely can seamlessly use Whatsapp, Viber, FB Messenger, Telegram and Signal all at the same time on all your devices.

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