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Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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For t-mobile america users/cheapskates: it's quad-band 3G unlike the N9's penta-band 3G, so I don't see this phone selling on t-mobile at all. Too bad though, I've been wanting to replace my nexus one with a well-designed easily jailbreakable/sim-unlockable os.

Looking at the specs:

http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifi...

It says it does 850 and 1900, which are T-Mobile bands, no?

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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The term "killer app" seems kind of outmoded, but I'm still waiting for WP7 to show me some really new functionality. I don't think we need something that can do the same stuff we've been doing for years on mobile phones, even if they've streamlined things here and there and have a pretty piece of hardware. Also, I honestly wonder if the dashboard-oriented UI makes it weak as an app platform. I have two friends who s…

FWIW, there is talk of adding folders to WP7 in the next incremental upgrade.

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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Ouch. Are they implying the other WP7 phones are just cheap fakes? The other OEM's must not be too happy about this today. Why do I get the feeling the other OEM's were just "used" to help WP7 survive for another year until the "real" WP7 manufacturer arrives?

It's a sign that an OEM needs to up their game. Do we care about Dell whining that Sony makes better looking laptops? Get with the program, this is how MS took over the PC market, by making the OEMs compete on all things thus benefiting the consumer immensely.

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I'm so disappointed by the color choices, and the bevel on the screen (or what looks like a bevel). Don't people ever wonder why some of the most popular phones in history have been white/black/silver only? I feel like consumer demand for mobile devices isn't driven by aesthetic choice, more so than apparent popularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_pho... The numerous amount of buttons on…

Huh, the buttons are vol. up, vol down, power and camera(works even when in sleep/locked so that you can quickly take a picture unlike fiddling with the power and touchscreen on the iPhone). I don't see how that's numerous when they are all pretty useful.

How does it avoid lots of pocket/purse pictures?

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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Here's my dream scenario: Nokia offers the same hardware with two different OS selections and also has Qt working on both Meego and WP platforms. This would obviously be a win-win situation for both the developer and the user. But this would be beneficial for Nokia as well, because: 1) It'd provide Nokia with hard data based on sales and user feedback on which platform performs better in real-world scenarios. Current…

(disclaimer: Nokia employee) On the one hand, maintaining two OS teams for the same hardware would be a waste of resources. On the other hand, I have heard stories of how Microsoft would often commit several teams to build a product to the same spec: the team that got something market-ready first was handsomely rewarded, and the teams that didn’t got reassigned to wash Bill Gates’s car. On the other other hand, Micro…

Disclaimer: I have never owned a handset from a maker other than Nokia :) I just want you guys back to the smartphone game.

> On the one hand, maintaining two OS teams for the same hardware would be a waste of resources.

Nokia will have to make a very serious platform decision in the not-so-distant feature. If resources spent on developing both will place that decision on sound arguments, I say it could be worth it. The tech scene is not (yet) persuaded that Meego is a dead end and a re-invented, unproven Windows Phone platform is the last chance to save Nokia.

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I suspect it's the other way around. MSFT bet the company on WP7, clearly has spent oodles of time and effort on it, but all of the launch devices were snoozefests - some were outright, lazy ripoffs of the OEMs' existing Android phones. There was nothing unique, compelling, or, well, anything about these phones. Most were even exceptionally crappy with the exception of the Samsung. It's clear that none of the OEMs we…

I might get downvoted for this sarcasm, but: That thing looks like a lazy ripoff of the Nokia N9. But oh well. They're both beautiful :-) Disclaimer: I used to work for Nokia.

It takes 18 months to design a phone and get it to market(along with the carrier approval and changes and all that nonsense). The MS deal was announced in Feb of this year. What did you expect?

Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'

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Huh, the buttons are vol. up, vol down, power and camera(works even when in sleep/locked so that you can quickly take a picture unlike fiddling with the power and touchscreen on the iPhone). I don't see how that's numerous when they are all pretty useful.

How does it avoid lots of pocket/purse pictures?

No idea but I haven't seen one in six months of use.

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I hope they rename it for the spanish market: http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/dictionary/es-en/lumia.php

+1 to everyone else saying it's not a common word. My Cuban family and I certainly have never used it, and I don't know any other Hispanics/Latinos who have used it before.
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