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Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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"I had heard good things about them on here" No, you did not hear good things about the biggest man-in-the-middle of the internet on here, and you're about to learn the tough lesson others have: don't trust Cloudflare with sensitive accounts or data.

Who are you trusting with your sensitive accounts and data?

If they're owned, based, and operated from within the EU, and do not have a dire record to their name, then I am very likely to trust them with sensitive things.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, if anyone wants to argue that it’s “in the TOS” that sounds like a contract no normal person would sign and likely not enforceable (IANAL) if pushed. No “sane” person would say, “yeah, if you think I’m doing something wrong, just sell all my shit!”

It’s sickening. They are committing a massive crime here and getting away with it. It’s time somebody alerts the media and blow the whistle on Cloudflares abusive actions. I wonder how many customers domains Cloudflare stole/deleted who’s owner didn’t have the luxury of knowing the Hacker News publicity trick?

Indeed, this might likely fall into criminal behavior and not civil (though they’d be liable for civil damages as well). Someone should let a few jurisdictions that have cloud flare customers and theft is illegal know about this.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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post #167

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I assure you, targeted persistent harassment is in fact not legal in most countries. With caveats for public figures and failing enforcement.

What do you mean by "most countries"? The only country that matters is the US.

And that one is a trivial search and click away: https://kellywarnerlaw.com/online-harassment-laws-united-sta... "most countries" was added for extra context.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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post #60
post #38

Update: Just received an email from CF. -------------- Hello, With regard to your inquiry, we have restored the domain names in your account to active status. Please allow for normal propagation. You will need to re-add mnf90.com to your account in order to manage it. Our apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Kind Regards, Cloudflare Trust & Safety ------------ Not much info lol, but guess its fixed n…

If you live in the EU the article 15 of the GDPR grants you the right to ask about the details. Often companies reply that they don't need to answer because of ¨security¨ but this is not true. You can in detail ask about ALL personal data that was used as an input for this decision, information about the ¨automated decision-making¨ (algorithm), and all personal data that resulted out of this process. https://gdpr.eu/…

Did you know that you're using umlauts instead of double-quotes? It looks a bit strange.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

#175
Cloudflare is acting really trashy recently from development perspective also They not fixing own terraform provider for months (not speaking about new api things), their shiny and slow as python zero access PWA makes horrible things with updates and they have zero response on community boards. Only way to reach them is to have paid account and be annoying and rude to support.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

#176

I know this sounds very cynical, but there's something funny about a company doing this automated trust and safety with zero recourse spiel while being entirely okay with hosting sites where people are bullied into suicide because we can't just deny service to technically legal websites as a pseudo public utility. Pick a lane.

Good point, but fraud and theft are different than being unpleasant or cruel.

Undoubtedly. But if you go the length to defend the morally indefensible purely though legality because you consider yourself as part of the commons somehow, a sort of neutral carrier maybe you should extend that principle to your appeal process and not make it an intransparent kafkaesque nightmare you can only resolve by getting enough people on Hacker News angry.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

#177

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Why does a private corporation get to unilaterally decide something is fraud and seize someone's property? Is this what ownership is supposed to be like?

You never "own" a domain. You just rent it from a registrar, who had permission from ICANN to let you rent it. There is no "good" that you can take with you when you give a registrar money for a domain.

>There is no "good" that you can take with you when you give a registrar money for a domain.

Ah, cant wait until you understand the nature of money itself ;)

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does a private corporation get to unilaterally decide something is fraud and seize someone's property? Is this what ownership is supposed to be like?

You never "own" a domain. You just rent it from a registrar, who had permission from ICANN to let you rent it. There is no "good" that you can take with you when you give a registrar money for a domain.

The only way to 'solve' this problem is to be an ICANN accredited registrar by yourself as an individual on an individual basis.

Edit:- Then the problem comes from registry. So, along with being a registrar, that individual will need to become a registry recognized by ICANN

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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post #139
post #85

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Which violates their registrar agreements: > Registered Name Holders must be able to transfer their domain name registrations between Registrars (Note that sections 3.7-3.9 do allow registrars to deny transfers, f.e. given "evidence of fraud", but given that they reinstated the domains I doubt they have evidence of fraud.) https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/transfer-policy-2016-0...

But they ('re automated system or through mistake or whatever) thought they did have evidence of fraud right, so that's consistent?

Perhaps I wasn't clear.. I mean that they sent some vague email saying it they'd detected fraud, and took other 'we've found fraud' actions (it was a false positive yes, but beside my point) - so it would be weird if they then acted like they couldn't take registrar actions that they could only take if the reason was fraud.

The behaviour was wrong and concerning yes, but it seems internally consistent, all along the 'fraud' path.

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