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Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by dontwordle »

soxocx wrote: post #79
dontwordle wrote: post #53

Hello! I am the creator of Don’t Wordle. Really excited to see this took off today. I thought I would share some background about the game, some of the iterations I went through, and some of the future features I would like to add. Background: Like many others, I have been playing Wordle daily. Recently, my Wordle win streak hit 99. I was admittedly very careful with my guesses on Day 100, not wanting to ruin my stre…

> 4. Trying to get www.dontwordle.com and dontwordle.com to take you to the same URL (either www.dontwordle.com or dontwordle.com) and still support TLS and only use the tech I mentioned above. I actually still don’t have it working perfectly. I know of a solution, but it’s overly complicated If you use Cloudfront with an S3 bucket as origin for _dontwordle.com_, just create a second Cloudfront with an S3 Bucket for…

So you can do this, but it won't support TLS to my knowledge. At least in my testing, it will work to navigate to www.dontwordle.com (you will get redirected to https://dontwordle.com). However, if you tried navigating _directly_ to https://www.dontwordle.com, that would not work. In fact, you can try clicking on https://www.dontwordle.com right now, and it won't work :) To be fair, currently I do not have it implemented exactly the way you described, but I encountered this exact same behavior when I tried it that way

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by pricci »

db_admin wrote: post #107
gweinberg wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true for Wordle, but I think according to the dontwordle rules you are allowed to make a guess with an em on one of the grey squares anyway.

No you are not allowed to do that. A grey square excludes the letter from the position, regardless of any yellow squares.

You are correct. Words with repeated letters are not a good strategy in this game.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by gmiller123456 »

DungZeekFu wrote: post #63

I seem to have found a bug (or the word list is drastically different from Wordle). The game says I have 3 possible words remaining, but every Wordle solver website says I only have 2 (and I only have 2 guesses remaining, so this is the difference between the game being winnable and not). The guesses I used for today were WRITE,BOODY,VOUCH,COMMA (and at this point the only two possible words are FOCAL and LOCAL, but…

Possible: focal, local, socas

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by ar_lan »

azemetre wrote: post #58
LZ_Khan wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um.. elden ring?

Literally spent 50 hours mucking around exploring everything I could before realizing that you have to fight Margit to progress the story. I honestly thought it was a game like Shadow of the Colossus where you freely explore and just fight bosses. Fun game but some very terrible UX decisions that seem spiteful at times.

I did the same exact thing. In fact, the whole rest of lakes of Niurnia I had found far earlier than I found Margit because I accidentally found the shortcut and thought - well, he was blocking this path, so I guess he's not necessary.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by skykooler »

DungZeekFu wrote: post #63

I seem to have found a bug (or the word list is drastically different from Wordle). The game says I have 3 possible words remaining, but every Wordle solver website says I only have 2 (and I only have 2 guesses remaining, so this is the difference between the game being winnable and not). The guesses I used for today were WRITE,BOODY,VOUCH,COMMA (and at this point the only two possible words are FOCAL and LOCAL, but…

I managed to win by discovering COXAL was a word, through brute force.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by nebulous1 »

pricci wrote: post #112
db_admin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you are not allowed to do that. A grey square excludes the letter from the position, regardless of any yellow squares.

You are correct. Words with repeated letters are not a good strategy in this game.

I'm not sure about your conclusion here. If we don't repeat the letter then we're going to have information about another letter, which we don't want.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by jzimbel »

ghaff wrote: post #65
dontwordle wrote: post #53

Hello! I am the creator of Don’t Wordle. Really excited to see this took off today. I thought I would share some background about the game, some of the iterations I went through, and some of the future features I would like to add. Background: Like many others, I have been playing Wordle daily. Recently, my Wordle win streak hit 99. I was admittedly very careful with my guesses on Day 100, not wanting to ruin my stre…

>What makes a Wordle square yellow One thing I had wondered--but not enough to figure out what the code does... Let's say you enter Mamma for example. And there is one M in the word but in the second position. Which M square does Wordle choose to turn yellow? (But maybe it doesn't matter?) There may be other cases like that as well.

Here’s the algorithm of the game’s letter marking system, based on my experience reproducing its logic for a script I wrote that computes remaining words from your guesses and their corresponding marks.

Suppose the target word is “polar” and you guess “banal”.

A submitted word is marked in 3 passes.

0. Initial state: (“banal”, “polar”)

1. Zip together the letters of the guess and target words, and loop through the zipped list. When both letters at a position are the same, replace the guess letter with the symbol for “correct” (green) and remove the target letter from the target word. State: (“banGl”, “polr”)

2. Loop through the target word’s letters, replacing the first occurrence (if any) of each one in the guess word with the symbol for “present” (yellow). State: (“banGY”, “polr”)

3. Replace any remaining letters in the guess word with the symbol for “not present” (black). State: (“BBBGY”, “polr”)

Return the marked guess word.

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Other examples:

0. (“mamma”, “amaze”)

1. (“mamma”, “amaze”)

2. (“YYmmY”, “amaze”)

3. (“YYBBY”, “amaze”)

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0. (“nieto”, “otoño”)

1. (“nietG”, “otoñ”)

2. (“nieYG”, “otoñ”)

3. (“BBBYG”, “otoñ”)

edit: fixing formatting issues. Sorry, first time posting a comment on here.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

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Post by [deleted] »

giyanani wrote: post #103

Jane street had a puzzle related to this, called eldrow [1], a few months ago. The gist is you’re trying to find the worst sequence of (hard mode) guesses possible for any word in the wordle set. Their site shows submissions of up to 16 words and claims 17 is impossible [2]. I’ve been trying to do the same, but have yet to cut the search space enough[3]. Ex: calculating the worst chain for jazzy (with a 1000 word sub…

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