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Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#72
post #39

I lost. Much harder for my poor non-native English speaker vocabulary. On third guess when it said I had 89 options, I couldn’t think of more than one word. A feedback: the “you lost” screen passes too quickly, I couldn’t read the word of the day.

It's almost the same for me! I didn't touch original Wordle because I don't know enough of vocabulary. Gave Don't Wordle a try. I guessed the word with 3rd try T_T

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#73

Seems like the best strategy is to choose words with repeat letters. For example, two great first choices would be LOLLY and SASSY. That's two empty cells that can't be used to guess.

...unless any of those letters appear in the answer - then you're locked into including them in subsequent guesses! Even worse if your guess had them in the right location!

Well, yes, but you're playing the odds. Sure, make the wrong choice and you can lose fast but I'm guessing, statistically, repeated less common letters is the best overall approach over time.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#74
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the objective is to simply win rather than to win in the fewest number of tries, it can be valuable to spend a guess on exploring the problem space rather than guessing the word outright: Once you know every letter is correct except the W after the first guess, you can think of the missing letter in the possible correct words (HBCLMP), and put together a word like "CHOMP" to eliminate a lot of potential guesses.

This is the most interesting aspect of Wordle to me, and the fact that hard-mode pretty much breaks it along with leading to random no-win situations basically ruined Wordle for me. Sure, I can just play it without hard mode - but then my friends and I aren't playing the same game.

Personally, I think that’s what makes hard mode interesting, that it creates a sort of meta-game for figuring out a reliable way to avoid these pathological cases.

It likely does mean you’ll have to sacrifice a lower average guess count in favor of avoiding losses.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#75

I seem to have found a bug (or the word list is drastically different from Wordle). The game says I have 3 possible words remaining, but every Wordle solver website says I only have 2 (and I only have 2 guesses remaining, so this is the difference between the game being winnable and not). The guesses I used for today were WRITE,BOODY,VOUCH,COMMA (and at this point the only two possible words are FOCAL and LOCAL, but…

This may be a spoiler somehow, but one of my guesses was ZONAL, which appears to be valid based on what you’ve guessed so far? That could be the 3rd possible word. I don’t know if it’s in the Wordle list or not.

EDIT: this isn’t it - I missed the C in COMMA!

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, on normal mode it resolves down to can you solve a 5-letter anagram with placement clues. I pick a new starting word each day (definitely sub-optimal) and play hard mode. To each their own.

I started one a few days ago with DIVVY. I was in the mood for either a crazy 1-guess win or a longer road otherwise. Game gets lame if you’re always using “statistically engineered” guesses.

Same, my first try LEDGE is not the optimal starting word.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#77
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the objective is to simply win rather than to win in the fewest number of tries, it can be valuable to spend a guess on exploring the problem space rather than guessing the word outright: Once you know every letter is correct except the W after the first guess, you can think of the missing letter in the possible correct words (HBCLMP), and put together a word like "CHOMP" to eliminate a lot of potential guesses.

This is the most interesting aspect of Wordle to me, and the fact that hard-mode pretty much breaks it along with leading to random no-win situations basically ruined Wordle for me. Sure, I can just play it without hard mode - but then my friends and I aren't playing the same game.

It can be a somewhat different game depending on who you play "with." You probably follow different strategies if your primary strategy is not to lose vs. if you're strategy is to get the best score you can (as my group does). I figure that I will only go for two if I come out of the first guess with a lot of information. But otherwise, I do generally shoot for 3.

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#78
post #67

It would be nice if there was a Give Up button. I got down to 30 possible words but could not for the life of me think of what they could be. I was craving that “Ohhhhh!!!!!” feeling when you see what the remaining possible words are.

Glad I'm not the only one. Got down to 20 possible words, but could not think of any that were valid choices given the letter/position constraints I had gotten to.

literally 1 possible word after I entered 2 tries :/ I have no idea which word it is

Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#79

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Re: Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried?

#80
post #40

Seems like the best strategy is to choose words with repeat letters. For example, two great first choices would be LOLLY and SASSY. That's two empty cells that can't be used to guess.

You can't guess Y twice...

SHYLY SLYLY
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