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Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

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Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#51
For me, levelling up has always been about finding work I care about. Do you like what you do? Do you care about what you’re building? Do you work with people you enjoy and who enjoy you?

We can’t always have everything but we can seek out some of it. If you aren’t being paid that well, then what the hell, you’ll find the same money or more somewhere else doing something that doesn’t make you feel like garbage.

Someone else made a legitimate point. Say you’re actually not that strong of a developer. That’s fine - but you’re probably relatively awesome in some settings. Your work doesn’t need to define you, and if competing your life away to feel like a loser isn’t emotionally or financially rewarding, the public sector has plenty of less competitive roles you might do well in. There’s security, regular hours, good enough money, etc. Being the best at writing code is worth nothing if you hate your life while you do it, so your actually skill level isn’t all that important.

Above all, don’t measure yourself by how well you perform at work. Make a life for yourself outside of work, and work to service that life. Find people who care about you and don’t think for a moment about how well you do at your work. Distance yourself as much as possible from those thoughts. Tech can be insular and competitive, and you can wind up with weird ideas about things. Ultimately, none of it matters.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#53
If you do not have commitments such as a family to provide for, you should take time off, assuming you have a cushion saved up. Take time to travel and learn some skills outside of technology for a year. An example is teaching english in a non-english speaking country, like Thailand, a trade, e.g., plumbing, if you can find someone to apprentice for. This is if you already have a college degree. If you do not have a college degree, then register for classes at a community college and complete as many directly relevant credits (e.g., Discrete Math, Relational Databases, etc.) that can be transferred for a degree. If you get a degree in Computer Science and Engineering, you will have a lot more opportunities, and there will be a floor for pay. Finally, after doing one or both of these for 1-2 years, look to get back into the industry. This time, you will have less chance of being underpaid and also have more confidence in your own ability.

Note: Leetcode interviews are hard even for people with degrees in Computer Science. This is even more true for people who graduated a long time ago. Basing a lot of your self-worth on Leetcode will be harmful no matter what, so you must develop a coping mechanism for that, which may include not interviewing at companies that heavily emphasize this type of interview.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#54
post #17

Others have mentioned some good things, so I wanted to suggest you read about Imposter Syndrome. If nothing else, you’ll realize you’re not alone in questioning your skills. It’s a very common issue in IT related fields.

I've seen people outside of IT do it, too. Human work can be very complicated and people assume a constant display of near-immediate expertise is the benchmark.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#55

1. Take time off, like a month or more. [1] Use it to do anything other than coding. Hone a hobby, travel, volunteer, etc. No-one will care about a month or two gap on your resume. 2. You are worth more than you currently think you are. Internalize this, know this, that is key. "I am a sole developer for Mobile and Web platforms at this startup in a very small team" --> is a desirable skill in and of itself. 3. Stop…

>Hone a hobby definitely. I would highly recommend creating something. Woodwork, metalwork, sculpting, crochet... whatever. It uses the brain in a completely different way. it creates new challenges and the satisfaction of physically manipulating the world is unequal in the digital world.

I second creating tunnels: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31565849

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#56
> I've already wasted my entire teens and 20s, current 28 years old, working as a software engineer (Full-Stack) at a startup for ~4 years.

I think you would benefit a lot from cognitive behavioral techniques to shift your mindset, so you have a more realistic and helpful perspective on the direction of your life.

Nothing too crazy. There are plenty of resources out there if you search for them. So much of what you feel is, in my experience, because of the stories and words we tell ourselves, which over time, create these impressions that aren't always true.

And even though he gets a lot of flak, I highly recommend Jordan Peterson's Self-Authoring course. It's basically a series of questions you write and explore to define what you want and gain some clarity. It's very helpful to everyone I recommend it to.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#57
A lot of stuff going on here.

1. You're clearly NOT incompetent. If you were, you couldn't possibly hold the web and mobile platform together entirely on your own for that long AND handle every on call incident.

2. The thing that surprised me most about burnout was the physical symptoms. You've got them. It only gets worse from here if you keep doing what you're doing.

3. It makes perfect sense to me that you don't feel like you're getting better in that environment. The rockstar developer is a myth, but the band is not. You get better by practicing with other talented people.

4. You already know this, but you're being taken advantage of.

So given all that...

1. Everyone telling you to take a break is correct. Go outside and look at trees, read a book somewhere scenic, shut off your phone. If you need to take sick time to do this, so be it. It's not going to make you feel normal, but it will give your wildly overworked brain some relief.

2. Hit up recruiters, hit up whatever network you have (including old acquaintances). Your story is incredibly straightforward: you held the line on these systems by yourself for years on end, including all their on-call needs, it's enough work for a 4-person team, and no help is coming. You're looking to work on an actual team where people actually learn from each other.

3. If possible, take some time off between the old job and the new job just to take care of yourself.

Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#58
It depends on what you want.

If you're in it for the money, try working less hours as you find a place with better compensation or benefits.

>being on-call almost 24/7, sometimes for straight 7 days for months despite only getting paid on a salary basis on 40 hr work weeks

This is just straight up exploitation, and definitely isn't making the ennui better. It's time get some appreciation for your efforts, from yourself and others! Most people can't say they're full-stack or have your years of experience - remember that as you negotiate.

If this isn't just a job to you, I'd suggest taking some time to go to school. Being immersed in the business side of things for too long makes software development a soulless art, which it has no reason to be. Studying something just to study it can strengthen your appreciation for it, once you remove it from the stress of making it useful.

Either way it seems like you're burnt out, and should try to mitigate any stressors you have.

Hope this helps!

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