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Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Good point -- I should stop being so naive and put more faith in the conspiracy theories of strangers from the internet.

A valid debating technique is to introduce doubt. Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful psychological tool. Read this and learn! The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.) https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

Hey, nice link and thanks for being supportive of reality. I think HN should, by default, assume all posters that are PRO megacorps/governments/rich - any person or group that could afford to hire shills - are paid shills. Change the color of their names or something. That way, they need to prove that what they're saying is actually valuable and not just shilling, instead of the way it currently runs where PR is trusted by default.

What's the harm in that, you know? The worst that would happen is that corporations would have a hard time astroturfing. The best that would happen is there'd be less PR.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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This is garbage- you don't have to write a business justficiation that is used to determine whether you are worthy of GPUs. Stop spreading fud.

Yes, you do. I went through this exact process in Fall 2021. I invite you to attempt to set up a personal GCP account for hobby use in the current GPU shortage, and share your experience.

They don’t give the option of paying more? Or direct you to their business/enterprise team if you really want it?

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I wonder if we'll end up in a future where gaming GPUs will be restricted from running ML algorithms, to prevent private individuals from running advanced deepfakes/DALLE-10 or whatever.

I mean Nvidia has already tried to do that with crypto mining

Good on them. As a researcher it is so disheartening when GPUs get hoovered up by people participating in proof of waste pyramid schemes.

Likewise, if google decides it wants to preserve its service for students and researchers, then I hope that people chewing up resources for malicious/questionable use-cases are booted off.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Good point -- I should stop being so naive and put more faith in the conspiracy theories of strangers from the internet.

A valid debating technique is to introduce doubt. Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful psychological tool. Read this and learn! The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.) https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

I don't think aiming to just introduce doubt is a valid debate technique. It is a good way to disrupt productive conversation and ruin debate, though. You've linked to a website about, essentially, derailing discussions. You should stop using those as advice on how to make arguments. Throwing around evidence-less accusations just adds to the confusion, and bad actors are better at exploiting confusion than honest people.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A valid debating technique is to introduce doubt. Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful psychological tool. Read this and learn! The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.) https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

I don't think aiming to just introduce doubt is a valid debate technique. It is a good way to disrupt productive conversation and ruin debate, though. You've linked to a website about, essentially, derailing discussions. You should stop using those as advice on how to make arguments. Throwing around evidence-less accusations just adds to the confusion, and bad actors are better at exploiting confusion than honest peo…

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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They do all the harvesting. Everything they can. Every morsel of data they can get, they get. Same thing Microsoft does with Windows, github and VSCode. Just hoovering up all the ideas you have.

if you can prove this you can make a lot of money

I'd rather just warn everyone not to use their spyware.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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post #116

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This is garbage- you don't have to write a business justficiation that is used to determine whether you are worthy of GPUs. Stop spreading fud.

Yes, you do. I went through this exact process in Fall 2021. I invite you to attempt to set up a personal GCP account for hobby use in the current GPU shortage, and share your experience.

OK, I just did this and it was trivial. Nothing extra, just used my normal hobby account.

Please don't promote FUD.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

Is there a good alternative to Colab you can just pay for, that's good for hobbyist individuals? Especially one that gives you shell access? I tried using PaperSpace for a while but it works maybe 1 in 3 times I tried to use it, they (temporarily) banned me for no reason, they send me "itemized" bills with empty line items, and their support was no help.

At saturncloud.io we focus on helping data science teams move to the cloud (either in your AWS account or ours). One component we provide is hosted jupyter lab (along with SSH access so you can use PyCharm/VSCode or anything else.

Hobbyists often use our free tier (30 hrs of GPU per month) or pay for more compute ($0.69/hour) to do a variety of GPU workloads.

We do prohibit things like DDOS attacks and cryptocurrency mining.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A valid debating technique is to introduce doubt. Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful psychological tool. Read this and learn! The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.) https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

I don't think aiming to just introduce doubt is a valid debate technique. It is a good way to disrupt productive conversation and ruin debate, though. You've linked to a website about, essentially, derailing discussions. You should stop using those as advice on how to make arguments. Throwing around evidence-less accusations just adds to the confusion, and bad actors are better at exploiting confusion than honest peo…

Well you used to be able to use Google to find all the websites that the 5 eyes were seeding conversations on!

All you had to do was copy one of the opening paragraphs from a thread on a forum website like dosbods.co.uk or housepricecrash.co.uk and then paste it into Google and then you could see the exact same starting conversations, word for word taking place on a variety of websites, like pistonheads, mumsnet and others. The press help elevate websites like mumsnet to help with the "consensus cracking" aka psychological manipulation.

Different avatars, but the conversations always started off word for word identical because invariably non spooky sock puppets ie members of the public would join in the conversation so then it would deviate off. This is one of the methods to phish people.

The spooks were on house price crash because they wanted to know why people on there were hoping for a crash. The reason being is maslow's heirachy of needs, suggests shelter is one of the basic needs, so mortgages are a way of controlling people en-masse which we have seen since the late 90's with property prices going through the roof and endless hours of property porn on tv. Northern Rock 125% mortgages showed people would over extend themselves for the idea that on paper they were rich and gambling on capital appreciation without realising tax rules may change in the future. Its one of the many many ways the so called free press have played their part in manipulating and controlling the public, along with the banks lending without caution etc etc, but this is the beuaty of the hierarchical structure of control, beit employment or other entities which control everyone's lives.

I've actually met former head of MI5 Andrew Parker, in Bishop's Stortford, but I didnt know him, I only recognised him when he did a speech on terrorism some years later that was broadcast on the BBC 6 o clock news. What was interesting is he used his real life accent when talking to me, but used the BBC Received Pronunciation when doing the speech on Terrorism. I also met James Brokenshire MP then Tory housing minister, with Dame Stella Rimmington & Baron Jonathan Evans at the pump house at Wastwater, Scafell Pike, the day after Theresa May called the election! It was their way of telling me they were operating on Housepricecrash.co.uk. Why else would they drag the govt housing minister up to Scafell Pike when he was supposed to be off getting lung cancer treatment!?!

Its the spooks job to protect the economy, so phishing people looking for a housing crash is one remit, however they didnt realise they were giving themselves away in more ways than one! I'm always reminded the smallest of viruses can kill the largest of hosts! ROFL

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