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Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

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Re: Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

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Post by Trasmatta »

flohofwoe wrote: post #7

The only "cultural exchange" between me and "AI algorithms" is that I'm trained like a frigging Pavlov's Dog to do or not do some entirely pointless things in order to not mess up my YouTube or Spotify recommendations (such as switching to the browsers private mode before watching some YouTube content to prevent being spammed from videos of the same type in the future). Thanks but no thanks.

I turned off YouTube watch history entirely partially for this reason. I'd recommend it. The algorithm still tries to guess based on your subscriptions and likes, but it has much less data to work with.

Re: Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

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Post by movement »

sdoering wrote: post #17
movement wrote: post #9

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I would recommend reading the guidelines for commenting on HN [0] if you create quotes like this: > you might need to visit a mental health care professional or read a text book [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: Esp. the first section about comments: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest o…

I agree with the rules and will follow them better in the future. Unfortunately this article and the comments are incredibly misleading and have a high potential for misinformation.

Re: Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

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Post by weeksie »

dougmwne wrote: post #3

This feels like a bit of light speculation at the moment, but I do agree with the point and think it will have an interesting effect on collective human behavior. I like the example of AlphaGo discovering new moves that then became popular because this is an example of an AI discovery, not a another human writing the rules of engagement that other humans follow. So to take this further, what if Imagen discovers a new…

It's grey goo for human culture.

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Post by api »

Instead of some kind of AI takeover I’ve thought for a long time that the most likely outcome is fusion, what I have called a “cybernetic lichen.”

A lichen is a fungus and a bacterium in symbiosis to the point that it behaves like a single organism. This would be similar: human brains and culture interwoven with AI to the point that it would be hard to figure out where one ends and another begins.

This doesn’t require neuralink or anything like that. It just requires a lot of human machine interaction and AI assisted work loads.

This is the lowest friction path and is also likely because human brains, conventional computers, and AI all excel at different things. This is by design. Humans have of course tried to engineer machines to do precisely the things we are either no good at or find horribly dull.

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Post by codebolt »

flohofwoe wrote: post #7

The only "cultural exchange" between me and "AI algorithms" is that I'm trained like a frigging Pavlov's Dog to do or not do some entirely pointless things in order to not mess up my YouTube or Spotify recommendations (such as switching to the browsers private mode before watching some YouTube content to prevent being spammed from videos of the same type in the future). Thanks but no thanks.

Between my wife and three kids, and my account being the default on the living room TV, my recommendations these days are mostly videos of trains, video games, horses and Chinese soap operas.

Re: Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

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Post by satellite2 »

Mistletoe wrote: post #8

I strongly believe this is already happening due to AI journalism and it is causing a lot of the extremism and division we see in society today. Those articles written by AI that grab tweets and post them in the story comes to mind. A positive feedback loop is initiated because Twitter is already setup to amplify extreme views and cause binary thinking. An AI doesn’t care if humanity destroys itself, it maximizes for…

> it maximizes for views or whatever parameter it was setup with

In a way, it maximizes for its survival

Re: Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

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Post by LunarCamper »

Isn't this exactly what is causing the political divide everywhere? Where segments of the population are living in completely different universes crafted by AI/algorithms and where everyone seems to not understand and despise the other side? Someone should make a terminator movie where the AI wins just by slowly making us all kill each other by feeding us a little bit of bullshit every day for a few years.
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