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Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Get real, you obviously dont know how organised crime works.

You have proof of these incredible claims - seems crazy to think Google/Microsoft are stealing private data? I know some folks at the NYT if you can provide credible evidence.

Who do you know at NYT?

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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What's wrong with Colab Pro out of curiosity (assuming you don't already know of it, which isn't restricted like the free version)?

Last time I checked it wasn't available outside the US and Canada at all, and didn't have a terminal, but I just checked and both of those seem to have changed. I'm also not a fan of having to upload files to Google Drive and then write special code to import them. It means my code isn't portable to run locally or anywhere else and it's just extra effort. I just want normal file access and to write scripts like I nor…

Technically that's not the target use case for Colab; it's Notebook in, Notebook out.

That's a use case more suited to running a VM itself.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I have wondered in the past what kind of monitoring / data harvesting google is doing with colab. I don't use them for anything nontrivial or work related precisely because I worry about google stealing my stuff or that I would be violating agreements with my customers by exposing their data to google. This story reinforces that they are snooping. That aside, I don't think I find this too upsetting. They don't let pe…

They do all the harvesting. Everything they can. Every morsel of data they can get, they get. Same thing Microsoft does with Windows, github and VSCode. Just hoovering up all the ideas you have.

Your ideas aren't worth that much to be honest

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Class action, violation of the Terms and Conditions. I'd honestly be shocked if Google/Microsoft are monitoring the clients of their public cloud and keeping the data to create their own products off of.

They’d need to be very careful in doing so, as they both operate services that are certified and audited to meet US Gov FedRAMP High control standards, and doing that would violate several audited control standards. A breach in that area would cost them potentially billions in losses.

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Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Class action, violation of the Terms and Conditions. I'd honestly be shocked if Google/Microsoft are monitoring the clients of their public cloud and keeping the data to create their own products off of.

They’d need to be very careful in doing so, as they both operate services that are certified and audited to meet US Gov FedRAMP High control standards, and doing that would violate several audited control standards. A breach in that area would cost them potentially billions in losses.

Public clouds are separated from their gov versions, with gov versions using older, modified versions of what everyone else uses. public clouds ARE NOT fedramp compliant

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

#66

Good for all of us maybe some good alternatives to colab will be created cause of that.

They already exist. The market for SAAS Jupyter is already crowded. Azure Notebooks, Github Codespaces, Kaggle Kernels, AWS SageMaker, CoCalc, Datalore, Binder...

Not even one is close to colab yet (first of google TPU is only way to access GPT-like models for most people, second you can get pretty neat GPU for few dollars when on other platforms you are paying a ton of money for that)

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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They’d need to be very careful in doing so, as they both operate services that are certified and audited to meet US Gov FedRAMP High control standards, and doing that would violate several audited control standards. A breach in that area would cost them potentially billions in losses.

Public clouds are separated from their gov versions, with gov versions using older, modified versions of what everyone else uses. public clouds ARE NOT fedramp compliant

Not necessarily. Lots and lots of .gov operates in commercial clouds. Google doesn’t even have a distinct offering - just support add-ons for things like CJIS compliance. Microsoft’s footprint is a lot more complex.

Outside of the DoD space, the main distinctions between these offerings is where data can be stored and where and to what level of vetting vendor employees are.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I wonder if we'll end up in a future where gaming GPUs will be restricted from running ML algorithms, to prevent private individuals from running advanced deepfakes/DALLE-10 or whatever.

This is terrifying. If only a certain class of people has access to this technology (i.e. governments and huge tech companies), the temptation to use that technology to control the class of people who don't will be too much.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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I wonder if we'll end up in a future where gaming GPUs will be restricted from running ML algorithms, to prevent private individuals from running advanced deepfakes/DALLE-10 or whatever.

There is this talk about the civil war on general purpose computing by Cory Doctorow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

He gave the same talk at Google: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbYXBJOFgeI

It's slowly becoming reality.

Re: Google has banned the training of deepfakes in Colab

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Get real, you obviously dont know how organised crime works.

You have proof of these incredible claims - seems crazy to think Google/Microsoft are stealing private data? I know some folks at the NYT if you can provide credible evidence.

Nah the house has been entered without permission hard drives wiped, been shot at, few attempts on my life, threatened countless times, you obviously live in lala land! You dont run a country by being nice you know!
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