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Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by edgyquant »

cheriot wrote: post #114
unholiness wrote: post #95

The biggest thing missing for me getting started is a reddit-like "feed" showing where discussion is actually happening. Like the reddit logged-out homepage (/best, not /new). The value of Podbabble is the intersection of podcast episodes that 1) people are talking about and 2) I have listened to. Right now the only way for me to find that intersection is to start from (2), searching for every podcast I can think of,…

100% this ^. I listen podcasts daily, am interested in discovering new ones, and do not create any podcasts. Looking at the home page I'm not sure how to find any content. Definitely not interested in creating an account just to see what's there. I recommend reading Reddit's origin story. There needs to be interesting content to get the first users to create content. Maybe the goal is to sell podcasters and get them…

Why would anyone want to recreate Reddit? Discovery can be its own app that is very good at recommending podcasts. This can be for discussions, like how forums used to be.

Keep them separate, because the world needs to get back to what we had with forums where people interested in subjects sought ought a place to discuss them. Back then actual discussions happened and the entire world wasn’t a giant flamewar.

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by cheriot »

edgyquant wrote: post #121
cheriot wrote: post #114

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100% this ^. I listen podcasts daily, am interested in discovering new ones, and do not create any podcasts. Looking at the home page I'm not sure how to find any content. Definitely not interested in creating an account just to see what's there. I recommend reading Reddit's origin story. There needs to be interesting content to get the first users to create content. Maybe the goal is to sell podcasters and get them…

Why would anyone want to recreate Reddit? Discovery can be its own app that is very good at recommending podcasts. This can be for discussions, like how forums used to be. Keep them separate, because the world needs to get back to what we had with forums where people interested in subjects sought ought a place to discuss them. Back then actual discussions happened and the entire world wasn’t a giant flamewar.

I didn't say recreate reddit. The point of the reddit origin story is that people will only start contributing content if there's already interesting content there.

If I host a new forum and just leave it on the internet, will someone create a account and post when there's zero messages there? Unlikely.

Ergo, founders of a social site need to seed it with interesting enough content that the first users will stick around.

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by irrational »

TameAntelope wrote: post #110
irrational wrote: post #39

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It sounds to me like you only visit the larger toxic subreddits. There are many hobby subreddits where the tone is positive and uplifting. It’s not Reddit as a whole that is the problem, but what subreddits you are visiting. Here is a hint, any subreddit that makes it to r/popular should never be visited.

There are also many hobby subreddits where the moderators are jerks and have zero clue how to manage or grow a community. There may be some "goldilocks" subreddit size, but IMO there are approaching zero Reddit communities that are "healthily" run, probably because most of the people involved (users, mods) are literal, actual children.

That hasn't been my experience. I've been pleased, for the most part, with how r/woodworking, r/boardgames, r/cooking, r/18xx, r/cooking, r/gardening, r/boardgamedeals, r/visitingiceland, etc. are run. I've run into very few toxic subreddits.

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by edgyquant »

cheriot wrote: post #123
edgyquant wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would anyone want to recreate Reddit? Discovery can be its own app that is very good at recommending podcasts. This can be for discussions, like how forums used to be. Keep them separate, because the world needs to get back to what we had with forums where people interested in subjects sought ought a place to discuss them. Back then actual discussions happened and the entire world wasn’t a giant flamewar.

I didn't say recreate reddit. The point of the reddit origin story is that people will only start contributing content if there's already interesting content there. If I host a new forum and just leave it on the internet, will someone create a account and post when there's zero messages there? Unlikely. Ergo, founders of a social site need to seed it with interesting enough content that the first users will stick aro…

Right and I’m suggesting Reddits origin story leads to a website like Reddit, and is not something anyone should seek to reproduce (unless being Reddit is your goal.) Making fake accounts isn’t the way to go if you want a decent discussion site specifically for podcasts. Otherwise You already have subreddits for every most of them.

The niche of a site like this is to not be going for growth at the expense of intellectual discussion.

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by alaxsxaq »

I searched for two podcasts; one failed with an error ('Error: could not handle the request) [No Agenda]. I tested another one, [eggchasers], and that worked reasonably well. My main criticism is that, when a search returns something meaningful, there is not a lot there to compel me to create an account and drill in deeper. If I were designing this, I would seed the 'sign up' presentation to new users with some relevant bits from the conversations which are happening on your site. If there are no current conversations, then some message which would spark my desire to start one.

Also, what value does the acast privacy link for each episode provide that wouldn't alternatively be provided by some header element?

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by carabiner »

wolframhempel wrote: post #12
pHollda wrote: post #10

This is unnecessary. The Reddit for podcast episodes is Reddit.

Some podcasts have reddit boards, some are mainly discussed on Twitter, some run Slack Channels, some publish on Youtube and use its live commentary in the chat - most use a mix of these. I appreciate this is a bit like the "we have 14 competing standards" XKCD, but there's a deeper, underlying problem that Podbabble tries to tackle: The majority of podcast discussion is either too general (i.e. debating the hashtag…

/r/redscarepod

/r/JoeRogan

These aren't just discussion groups for the podcasts - many of the users in these subreddits don't even listen to the podcasts. The subreddits for these podcasts have evolved as their own, independent communities. Why would they just up and leave for yours?

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by murphyslab »

cupofpython wrote: post #44
Sakos wrote: post #20

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I think it's odd to give sole control of moderation to podcast creators. It quickly leads to creators sanitising feedback to prefer only positive feedback.

>It quickly leads to creators sanitising feedback to prefer only positive feedback I dont see this as a big issue. It seems to be a place for podcast community members to gather and discuss instead of making yet another discord. If you dont have positive feedback for a podcast why comment at all to begin with? The podcast medium is entirely built to taste and fits well with being a bubble (despite bubbles usually bei…

> If you dont have positive feedback for a podcast why comment at all to begin with?

The quality of a podcast is not going to be uniformly positive. So a listener's feedback isn't going to be uniformly positive. It becomes a problem when the primary space for discussing a subject only permits positive feedback. Healthy communities do require negative feedback.

It's ironic that creator of Podbabble couches the creator-based moderation as a means to

> Foster healthy communities. Podbabble lets you moderate, adjust ratings, and flag comments as you see fit.

Too often, allowing the subject of a forum to moderate the forum leads to suppression of valid critique. And good critique can also come from outsiders; those who are not regular listeners.

A better alternative for Podbabble would be to allow creators to sponsor their podcast's forum, perhaps having it be featured more prominently or by removing comment rate limits.

Re: Show HN: A Reddit style site to discuss podcast episodes

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Post by Aachen »

How does this work? I went to an episode of Nerdland, posted a comment, saw a brief loading icon and the input area emptied itself and... poof, nothing happened. Reloaded page, no comment. Tried posting again, but no comment appeared.

Is the commenting system overloaded? Do I need to login first (it doesn't say so)? Does it need to be able to talk to Stripe the payment network to place comments (TrackerControl app shows that as the only detected tracker while using the site)? I didn't include links or markup, so if it was detected as spam (again: there's no mention of that, no error, no nothing) then I'd not know why.

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