If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.
California parents could soon sue for social media addiction
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#72We've seen this happen in other highly regulated areas such as healthcare, telecommunications, etc.
I suspect the way things are trending, in 10 years, very few entrepreneurs would be willing to start a new social media company.
Clearly the regulators see this as a potential downside, which is why the $100 million in gross revenue provision was added.
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#73For kids, I think it's irresponsible to get kids even more addicted earlier on in life.
At this point, I don't think it's simple to blame the individual or parent for personal responsibility. The only way to avoid it is to get it out of your home completely. This is similar to televisions in the home in the 60s till today. Should we also be able to sue television and cable companies for tv addiction?
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In an ideal situation, it's two parents against thousands of software engineers, marketers, corporate psychologists, and their children's many peers. Many adults can't keep themselves from the addiction. How do we expect parents to keep their kids from it? Or, to put it another way, I'm sure the median parent would have much less luck keeping their kids away from social media than they do with porn.
Why don't we just put everyone in a box after they are born and feed them through a straw like a hamster so they can't possibly ever harm themselves? People need to take responsibility for themselves.
It's my job to not shit in the pool. And, it's your job to avoid it if I do shit in the pool.
The idea that people can do whatever they want and the consequences are 100%, completely on the heads of other people to deal with is a hilariously juvenile view of personal responsibility.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why just limit it social media? Why not also include video games, streaming services, movies, etc.?
And mid-1980s heavy metal music too.
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#76Why don't people take personal responsibility for things? Why does there always have to be an option to sue someone?
Exactly, why don't they take responsibility for making an addictive product? Why do they need to be sued to recognise their negative impact on other people?
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#77If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.
Couldn't the same argument be used for cigarettes? "We shouldn't regulate tobacco companies influence on kids because it's a parent's responsibility to prevent that sort of harmful thing"? I agree that this bill is silly, but "parents are responsible for preventing all harm to children" doesn't seem like a universally applicable argument.
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Tell that to young children who’s brains are still developing and who don’t understand the consequences. Not every child can have a parent to teach them the rights and wrongs of the world. Sometimes policy enforcement helps situations like this. It keeps large corporations from taking advantage of our society.
I'll leave it to the parents to handle parenting their kids.
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1) We decided for highschool for the first phone. Some parents give smart watches so the kids are contactable but don't have a big screen. 2) I have the Google controls. That said, its as you say kids can circumvent controls so the best thing you can do is have this conversation. We've spoken a buch of times with the kids about how other kids will look at gore/porn out of interest/shock value but they should choose n…
single parents, parents working odd hours, divorced parents - they often must give phones to their kids at earlier ages are you certain your kids ~~are not sneaking a flashlight under their blankets to read books until dawn~~ do not have a secondary phone to scroll tiktok until dawn, are not learning from friends about vpns, are not browsing porn when your kids go to school or are away from home can you be certain th…
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1) We decided for highschool for the first phone. Some parents give smart watches so the kids are contactable but don't have a big screen. 2) I have the Google controls. That said, its as you say kids can circumvent controls so the best thing you can do is have this conversation. We've spoken a buch of times with the kids about how other kids will look at gore/porn out of interest/shock value but they should choose n…
single parents, parents working odd hours, divorced parents - they often must give phones to their kids at earlier ages are you certain your kids ~~are not sneaking a flashlight under their blankets to read books until dawn~~ do not have a secondary phone to scroll tiktok until dawn, are not learning from friends about vpns, are not browsing porn when your kids go to school or are away from home can you be certain th…
Looking at some things at a friend's house is much less impactful than an everyday half-unlimited supply.