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Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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You're basically saying "put the drink down" to an alcoholic or "put the cigarette out" to a smoker. This issue really is more complicated than you make it to be.

Then courts can start committing people against their will for partaking in what the vast majority of responsible people have no problem with.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Tell that to young children who’s brains are still developing and who don’t understand the consequences. Not every child can have a parent to teach them the rights and wrongs of the world. Sometimes policy enforcement helps situations like this. It keeps large corporations from taking advantage of our society.

I'll leave it to the parents to handle parenting their kids.

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If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.

Yes, but every time someone brings up "parenting" as a way to control their children's social media habits, a thousand man-children rush furiously to their phones to declare that the behavior is not only an infringement upon the rights of the child but worthy of estrangement.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.

If only parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over others harming their children.

We could call it "sueing".

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.

In an ideal situation, it's two parents against thousands of software engineers, marketers, corporate psychologists, and their children's many peers.

Many adults can't keep themselves from the addiction. How do we expect parents to keep their kids from it?

Or, to put it another way, I'm sure the median parent would have much less luck keeping their kids away from social media than they do with porn.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.

How would you do it (serious question)? I live in US, and like China's approach on this specific issue. 1) Disallow smartphone until certain age. Which age? 2) Allow smartphone, but with parental controls. Which ones? Many of them are hackable. 3) Allow smartphone, but with time of day/week restrictions that you enforce by taking away the phone?

1) We decided for highschool for the first phone. Some parents give smart watches so the kids are contactable but don't have a big screen.

2) I have the Google controls. That said, its as you say kids can circumvent controls so the best thing you can do is have this conversation.

We've spoken a buch of times with the kids about how other kids will look at gore/porn out of interest/shock value but they should choose not to as its not healthy etc. And other things like staying private online, predators, come to us if they are getting bullied or do something wrong like share an embarrasing picture and its getting used against them etc.

Ultimately this one its about having a good/trusting parent child relationship I feel than via digital restrictions.

3) From the Google controls we have time restriction, both time of day and total hours.

The other thing I feel is important 1) is making sure you do things with kids. It's easy to get tired as a parent and let them entertain themself but playing board games and sports etc is so important. Making sure you have quality time beyond screens makes it a smaller part of their life. And 2) Encourage the right friendships. Put the effort to organise events with kids/families with good values as the group surrounding them will have a big impact.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.

If only parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over others harming their children. We could call it "sueing".

Why just limit it social media? Why not also include video games, streaming services, movies, etc.?

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Why don't people take personal responsibility for things? Why does there always have to be an option to sue someone?

Because suing them into compliance is easier than forcing them into creating standards that protect children. These are companies that spend many millions of dollars a year researching how to get kids hooked on their products.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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If only there was a way parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over these children to prevent what they believe is harmful. We could call it “parenting”.

A controversial take.

We should consider individuals aren't able to parent their kids effectively.

Would you rather trust two exhausted individuals or a huge army of trained professionals at payroll by government to parent the kids?

There is very less transfer of knowledge and the worldview of individual parents is often limited. If there is an organization parenting thousands of kids, they can run A/B tests, see results of changing incentives, able to better respond from all data gathering and long trail of past experience. A parenting organization at scale also has more power to push through effective policy faster and change legal system to remove harmful corporations (social media in this thread).

Individual parents on other hand are inefficient, start with nothing usually, don't have enough visibility, time or expertise to consider the most optimal choices. They are helpless.

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