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Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

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Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#31
Have you not tried to get in concat with anyone else before? "mysterious reasons"

Did you try go get in contact with them directly and clarify it? Did you talk to a moderator?

Besides that, you are hosting code right? How is 70gb of traffic a DDos?

I have to say, traffic numbers like you posted, would not concern me at all. I'm very curious why your underlying git usage can't do better caching.

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#32
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but that's not an option according to the article. > I can’t blackhole their IP addresses, because that would make all Go modules hosted on git.sr.ht stop working for default Go configurations (i.e. without GOPROXY=direct)

That’s more of a “won’t” than a “can’t”

It would mean his service would be useless for a significant portion of end-users. Not really an option for a site that wants to stay relevant.

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#33
post #10

If it were me, and I wasn't willing to just block the traffic, I might just set a 128 kbps limit on it and call it a day[1]. Eventually, the other side will figure out that their fetchers are all backed up and work out how to do their job without burning so much bandwidth. [1] Yeah, that can be a bit of a pain to setup depending on the server settings, but some people have to pay for bandwidth and server resources, s…

The rate limit is unlikely to cause a problem. Google has been crawling the web since its very start, and the internal services which fetch resources from external web servers are extremely resilient. Some request fails? Some request is slow? It's not going to slow down other requests. Maybe these services aren't being used for Go, but the expertise is on tap.

(These kinds services are also supposed to rate-limit their requests.)

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#34
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you going to get upset at node for calling home to Microsoft (npm owned by github owned by microsoft) when using the supplied package management too?

How could node not do that? NPM hosts all the packages so of course it does.

They could do it similar to Go. Instead of "facebook/react" it could be "facebook.com/react" in "package.json".

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#35
post #31

Have you not tried to get in concat with anyone else before? "mysterious reasons" Did you try go get in contact with them directly and clarify it? Did you talk to a moderator? Besides that, you are hosting code right? How is 70gb of traffic a DDos? I have to say, traffic numbers like you posted, would not concern me at all. I'm very curious why your underlying git usage can't do better caching.

> Did you try go get in contact with them directly and clarify it? Did you talk to a moderator?

As noted in the article, he did, and then Google banned him without warning.

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#36

There is a very simple way to get them to stop sending the .5 qps that is described as a ddos. The linked bug show another user successfully saying "please opt me out", and Google building the feature to do that in a week. Drew has for some reason chosen not to ask for an opt out, even though it appears trivial and would probably be fixed by the weekend if he asked for it.

I think he's been banned from the issue tracker.

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#37
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you going to get upset at node for calling home to Microsoft (npm owned by github owned by microsoft) when using the supplied package management too?

Yes. I find all of the modern "always connected, always call home" behaviors quite annoying in my programming tools. But, to be fair, Node was a dumpster fire long before being bought by Microsoft.

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Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#38
post #31

Have you not tried to get in concat with anyone else before? "mysterious reasons" Did you try go get in contact with them directly and clarify it? Did you talk to a moderator? Besides that, you are hosting code right? How is 70gb of traffic a DDos? I have to say, traffic numbers like you posted, would not concern me at all. I'm very curious why your underlying git usage can't do better caching.

> Did you try go get in contact with them directly and clarify it? Did you talk to a moderator? As noted in the article, he did, and then Google banned him without warning.

That's not what the article says. It says he doesn't know why he was banned; it doesn't establish causality.

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#39
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but that's not an option according to the article. > I can’t blackhole their IP addresses, because that would make all Go modules hosted on git.sr.ht stop working for default Go configurations (i.e. without GOPROXY=direct)

That’s more of a “won’t” than a “can’t”

A source code repo can't block access to code it hosts for a major language and maintain its user's goodwill. "cant'" sounds right.

Re: Google has been DDoSing Sourcehut for over a year

#40
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you going to get upset at node for calling home to Microsoft (npm owned by github owned by microsoft) when using the supplied package management too?

If you're pulling down a packge with npm that isn't part of the npm registry, the request isn't going through a Microsoft proxy.

Same for Go, only thsy Go has an opt-out "registry" rather than opt-in.
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