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Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by michaelrpeskin »

rmbyrro wrote: post #459
michaelrpeskin wrote: post #240

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We’re small enough that it would tie my account to me. Not wanting to do that. Maybe the next Who’s Hiring I’ll have a throwaway ready and do that.

You'd be surprised by (probably) how easy would be to tie your account to you. But I respect the care to your own privacy.

If I _really_ cared, I'd never post publicly at all. Just trying to not be obvious who I am in real life. Every night when I plug in my phone and go to bed, I always say "good night NSA" because I assume I'm always being tracked :)

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by scrapcode »

There are certainly worse positions to be in, and I believe you'll be fine if you stay persistent. As much as it may seem here on HN and other dev socials, dubbing yourself as a 'software developer' doesn't guarantee that you write your own ticket from the get-go. Stay persistent, go through the application process for everything that seems remotely interesting, and negotiate from there. Good luck - once it happens, everything changes and soon you'll be looking for a more senior role where you can demand a bit more.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by thejournalizer »

This is unfortunately expected behavior and a bullet dodged. The only exception would be that this startup likely was expecting to get a funding round to close soon, and because of the recent shifts, VC dollars are drying up. That said, there is still money moving to tech companies.

Your skills are in demand, just may need to work with a recruiter for find a spot that works best for you (how I get most of my roles lately).

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by hapiri »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #499
aloisdg wrote: post #432

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Home time is personal time. Here I deal with family, chores and self-connection. If you want me to learn stuff and be better and my job you will have to give me time, company time, for that. We are not machine. In France it is mandatory for the company to give time for training. Thanks unions. https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/id/LEGISCTA000006189881...

> We are not machine. Counterpoint: if you want to stay relevant in technology and be above regular level, you gotta have the passion for it and that implies doing your homework. Look at it from another perspective. If you want to play a guitar in a band for money, you don’t require the band to give you “time to learn”. You learn on your own time. If you don’t want to learn, you become irrelevant and get replaced.

I thought we're already over with the "every minute of your life is monetizable" mindset ?

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Post by HomeGear »

kabdib wrote: post #293
30944836 wrote: post #236

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>had a friend from the first job help me get a job This is the part of the story that OP needs to key in on. OP: Network. Network Network Network. I've been at 2 FAANG in 7 years. I don't write code. I make good money. Friends got me jobs both times. Do whatever you have to do to make friends with people in the industry where you want to work. Go to the bars they hang out in. Go to meet-ups. Go to lectures open to th…

All but one of the jobs I've had in my 4+ decades of mucking with computers have been through networking. (Even the gig I had as a dishwasher in high school was a referral through a friend). That one job that I got at a generic Silly Valley job fair? It was the place where I learned the term "Train Wreck". Network, network, network. Oh yeah.

It’s hard to say if your experience is isolated to a single job. No?

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Post by 30944836 »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #260
30944836 wrote: post #236

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>had a friend from the first job help me get a job This is the part of the story that OP needs to key in on. OP: Network. Network Network Network. I've been at 2 FAANG in 7 years. I don't write code. I make good money. Friends got me jobs both times. Do whatever you have to do to make friends with people in the industry where you want to work. Go to the bars they hang out in. Go to meet-ups. Go to lectures open to th…

This can be hit and miss so needs some persistence. For me, not living in SF or even the USA, there is not really a tech culture to the point where the Pizza delivery person wants to talk about Monads (a story I read somewhere...). However if you are not in a tech city, and don't want to move to one, then online is great. Here is what you can do. 1. Find stuff on Show HN or HN (or Reddit etc.) generally that you are…

>This is more like: build and connect with people for their coolness, and let the occasional job opportunity present itself.

This is an excellent summary. I'll add: people like helping people. They like getting people jobs, they like seeing other people succeed, and they like mentoring people, even casually. Use that to your advantage, and don't forget to lend a hand to the next person on your way up the ladder.

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by markus92 »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #499
aloisdg wrote: post #432

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Home time is personal time. Here I deal with family, chores and self-connection. If you want me to learn stuff and be better and my job you will have to give me time, company time, for that. We are not machine. In France it is mandatory for the company to give time for training. Thanks unions. https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/id/LEGISCTA000006189881...

> We are not machine. Counterpoint: if you want to stay relevant in technology and be above regular level, you gotta have the passion for it and that implies doing your homework. Look at it from another perspective. If you want to play a guitar in a band for money, you don’t require the band to give you “time to learn”. You learn on your own time. If you don’t want to learn, you become irrelevant and get replaced.

You think doctors/nurses do homework? They go to paid courses/conferences all the time to stay up-to-date on the latest medical techniques. Hospitals have entire teaching departments for that kinda stuff. Why should it be different for engineers?

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

hapiri wrote: post #514
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #499

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> We are not machine. Counterpoint: if you want to stay relevant in technology and be above regular level, you gotta have the passion for it and that implies doing your homework. Look at it from another perspective. If you want to play a guitar in a band for money, you don’t require the band to give you “time to learn”. You learn on your own time. If you don’t want to learn, you become irrelevant and get replaced.

I thought we're already over with the "every minute of your life is monetizable" mindset ?

I am. But I also learn stuff I can apply on my job. I find it nothing out of order. I’m doing this job for 22 years.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

markus92 wrote: post #517
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #499

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> We are not machine. Counterpoint: if you want to stay relevant in technology and be above regular level, you gotta have the passion for it and that implies doing your homework. Look at it from another perspective. If you want to play a guitar in a band for money, you don’t require the band to give you “time to learn”. You learn on your own time. If you don’t want to learn, you become irrelevant and get replaced.

You think doctors/nurses do homework? They go to paid courses/conferences all the time to stay up-to-date on the latest medical techniques. Hospitals have entire teaching departments for that kinda stuff. Why should it be different for engineers?

Pretty difficult to do guerilla surgeries. Those are regulated jobs and you need to study/finish education to have a license.

Also, let us distinguish “engineers” and say, I’m not picking a fight, “java spring boot developer with 2 years of experience”.

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Post by datalopers »

tarunm wrote: post #442
TimTheTinker wrote: post #338

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I wasn't trying to communicate level of success, just economic context and the fact that jobs are available there. But since you ask: $57M ARR, 117% NRR, 97% YoY growth, 51 NPS, named a best place to work in [insert regional business journal] for the last 4 years in a row, customers really love us, and employees really love working here. I don't know how reliable Glassdoor is considered to be these days, but we're ra…

Not OP but if I may, these numbers alone also does not necessarily indicate that you can successfully weather a downturn in near future or is well on the path to future success. Your headcount doubled last year and so did your revenue, maybe you doubled your sales team and the model won't scale further (I don't know what is your industry/product is so just speculating). Your revenue per employee is ~$114K, if most of…

For context the company is Floqast, accounting software SaaS. They raised $110M in July 2021 at 40x revenue (with an aggregate $93M raised over the 4 years prior). They’re proudly waving that Unicorn banner everywhere they can. 180 employees end of 2020 and 500 today on the way to 725.
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