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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by jasonjmcghee »

I bought an F97 when it was released, and it's by far the best keyboard I've ever used. https://iqunix.store/collections/f97-series/products/f97-hit...

It's bluetooth (up to 3 devices, which you can change between with a key stroke), and also supports wireless dongle or wired (usb-c)

Hot swappable, 260 day battery life...

The key caps are PBT- they feel so much better than any keys I've used.

I have always used cherry blue, but chose pink on this one and it's silent.

I love this thing.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by toxican »

arinlen wrote: post #172
FireBeyond wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference between Akko, EPOMAKER Akko, YUNZII Akko, Womier Akko, Gliging Akko, COSTOM Akko on Amazon? That all looks... entirely reputable. Absolutely.

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So I can point my 60yo father to a reddit thread to try to figure out the differences between switches and manufacturers when all he really wants is a keyboard that sounds/feels better than the gummy crap that came with his Dell. Then maybe he'll create an account and ask a question and get some snarky ass hole reply from someone barking "IF You'd HAd GooOgled It!".

Or, I can say "dad, check out this logitech kb. It's affordable and you can pick how loud you want it to be".

Literally that simple. Start looking at things through the eyes of your parents or grandparents and you start to see how fucking complicated and confusing a lot of this shit is. It's no wonder at all that Logitech is coming out with something simple with streamlined options.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by wmeredith »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

> anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer.

If this is like my other Logitech keyboards, that's about 2.1 years.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by layer8 »

zweifuss wrote: post #13

What I don't like about the MX keyboards is that they don't have an IBM compatibility mode. For example, the pause key is Start+Fn+B. So the familiar break combination in Visual Studio CTRL+Pause is CTRL+Start+Fn+B. The Fn key is on the left, so it requires two-handed operation. Some key combinations can not be reached at all, not even as a macro. The macro facility (progammable key) is near useless anyway.

Also no Menu key (in the place were they have the Fn key), which I use all the time on Windows. The combined Windows/Mac keycap labels are unfortunate as well (unless you frequently switch your keyboard between both systems I guess), seems like a cheap cost-cutting measure instead of offering two models or exchangeable keycaps.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by nix0n »

donatj wrote: post #124

I am not a gamer. The price gouging on things gamers enjoy is irritating. It happened with headphones, mice, and now keyboards. As “gamers” and particularly streamers grew as a market category, the prices for goods associated with them went insane. Even considering inflation, $150 for a Logitech keyboard is just nuts, even if it is mechanical.

The counterpoint to this is laptops.

If you're doing CAD and you need to get a laptop with a decent GPU in it, the enterprise version of that will cost you twice as much as the gaming version.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by itstomkent »

chadash wrote: post #180
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

The MX Master 3 mouse is far and away the best mouse I've ever used. It switches easily between computers, feels great, has great functionality and most importantly, doesn't leave my wrist hurting at the end of the day (which I what brought me to try it out in the first place). Yes, I can look into other options, but this is targeting people like me, who are already in the logitech ecosystem and are happy there. I ca…

Man if you like the MX Master 3 you would have loved the original Performance MX. They've made this mouse worse with every iteration. The first one was frickin awesome but when it eventually wore out I've slowly iterated through the MX Master series (1, 2 and 3 now). Honestly if I could get the hyperscroll on someone elses wired mouse (Mionix Noas Pro w/ hyperscroll wheel would be a dream) I would jump in a heartbeat but I just can't quit that damned scroll wheel.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

Kerrick wrote: post #107
utexaspunk wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What's that? I couldn't hear you over my keyboard clacking!"

I bought a mechanical keyboard with clicky blue switches and brought it to work at my open office company. Very quickly my coworkers encouraged me to buy one with silent clear switches. I now own two. The clicky one stays at home.

I want a mechanical keyboard that's as quiet as possible. I assume you did research to find the best options. Would you have any resources available?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by obituary_latte »

Wasn't very easy to find, but here are the differences between the 3 key types:

>Linear switches, colored red, are the smoothest, with no tactile bump and little noise.

>Tactile switches, colored brown, have a little discernible bump and little sound. It would be the one closest to a traditional typing experience you find on our MX Keys keyboards.

>Clicky switches, colored blue, have a discernible bump and sound. They are the loudest of the three switch types.

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/5216332313495-FAQ...

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by lvass »

krallja wrote: post #183
lvass wrote: post #145

Do we have any users here who have to type important passwords, and still own wireless keyboards? What convinced you this is safe?

I use a wired keyboard for latency, FileVault, and reliability reasons. I’m not concerned about the security. If someone is close enough to sniff BT packets, they can also do acoustic analysis of your typing, or a TEMPEST attack on the (plaintext!) USB protocol. BT can have about the same level of encryption as TLS. https://duo.com/decipher/understanding-bluetooth-security

>close enough to sniff BT packets, they can also do acoustic analysis of your typing, or a TEMPEST attack

Evidence needed, those look multiple orders of magnitude harder.

>BT can have about the same level of encryption as TLS

But does your keyboard always have it, even in bootloader/initrd? What about the far more common wireless USB dongles?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by jabroni_salad »

bbarn wrote: post #33
Gigachad wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, I really like the Logitech wireless dongle. So much more reliable than Bluetooth and it works on the bios screen as well. Never really cared about swapping switches much and I want my keyboard to be wireless. I’d consider buying this if I didn’t already own the regular mx keys.

The fact that it IS a dongle is the major disadvantage. Most laptops have only one or two USB-B slots and many are moving towards USB-C for everything. Most also have very functional bluetooth built in. It's just not worth a minor improvement in connection quality (which is debatable, reading these comments) to lose the only slot I have in a laptop. I have to unplug my external keyboard in order to use my headset if…

My k860 and MX Master does not need the dongle, although I find I get slightly lower latency with it than with regular bluetooth. I leave it plugged in to my docking station and switch the mouse to bluetooth if I take it to a conference room.
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