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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by wnolens »

arinlen wrote: post #53
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

> Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. You can get a cheaper no-fuss mechanical keyboard from reputable brands with respectable components for far less than this logitech keyboard is being sold. From the top of my mind, Akko keyboards are quite nice, and most of their products sell for $50 less. You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for…

> You'd need to be completely, utterly clueless to go to Logitech for a mechanical keyboard. The faintest of Google searches would lead you to established products which are both cheaper and better.

Not clueless, just not someone who would Google around for reviews or care to get the absolute best. They go to Best Buy. This is virtually every adult I know over age 40/50 outside of the industry. They'll roll up to Best Buy for a new keyboard, see this and think "cool! Some new type of thing!"

A household brand name like Logitech is significant. They've been making mice almost as long as I've had a computer. This is extremely important to anyone who's been around long enough to have ventured into trying alternatives and eventually come back to the big names for consistency, warranty, return-ability.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ulkesh »

donatj wrote: post #124

I am not a gamer. The price gouging on things gamers enjoy is irritating. It happened with headphones, mice, and now keyboards. As “gamers” and particularly streamers grew as a market category, the prices for goods associated with them went insane. Even considering inflation, $150 for a Logitech keyboard is just nuts, even if it is mechanical.

This is a pretty standard price for mechanical keyboards, whether pre-built or self-built. Hasn't really changed much in the last 5 or so years, that I am aware.

I do agree, though, that they do take advantage via FOMO or perceived elitism, to a degree, with such pricing.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by krallja »

lvass wrote: post #145

Do we have any users here who have to type important passwords, and still own wireless keyboards? What convinced you this is safe?

I use a wired keyboard for latency, FileVault, and reliability reasons. I’m not concerned about the security.

If someone is close enough to sniff BT packets, they can also do acoustic analysis of your typing, or a TEMPEST attack on the (plaintext!) USB protocol. BT can have about the same level of encryption as TLS. https://duo.com/decipher/understanding-bluetooth-security

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

donatj wrote: post #124

I am not a gamer. The price gouging on things gamers enjoy is irritating. It happened with headphones, mice, and now keyboards. As “gamers” and particularly streamers grew as a market category, the prices for goods associated with them went insane. Even considering inflation, $150 for a Logitech keyboard is just nuts, even if it is mechanical.

Worse than the price inflation are all the RGB LEDs spammed over everything. Can't stand the gamer aesthetic taking over a market.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by ranger207 »

arinlen wrote: post #172
FireBeyond wrote: post #151

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What's the difference between Akko, EPOMAKER Akko, YUNZII Akko, Womier Akko, Gliging Akko, COSTOM Akko on Amazon? That all looks... entirely reputable. Absolutely.

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this, both the need to research basic facts like "what brand am i buying from", and the attitude when you ask questions to research those basic facts, is why someone would want to buy a logitech mechanical keyboard

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by toxican »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

After looking at the product listing, it's pretty clear who it's for. Non-techfolk that want to try out a mechanical keyboard. Or heck the older techies who haven't kept up with stuff, but miss the tactile feel of KBs of the 70s/80s.

Other mechanical keyboards have different switch-types listed, but even as a user of a mech keyboard for a decade now I couldn't tell you which is which without looking it up. Logitech simplified it with "Tactile Quiet", "Linear", and "Clicky". You immediately know which style is for you without having to consult some switch tactile/loudness chart or ask the mechanical keyboard cult for their take. They've lowered the bar of entry into the mechanical keyboard market. Do other companies do the same or go the extra mile to simplify the process? Probably, but it carries a lot more weight when the biggest name in computer peripherals does it.

As for me, I might give it a go eventually. If they take a cue from the MX mouse series with how damn customizable it is binding buttons to actions, then I'll definitely be grabbing it.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

Kerrick wrote: post #107
utexaspunk wrote: post #94

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"What's that? I couldn't hear you over my keyboard clacking!"

I bought a mechanical keyboard with clicky blue switches and brought it to work at my open office company. Very quickly my coworkers encouraged me to buy one with silent clear switches. I now own two. The clicky one stays at home.

I chose to WFH over RTO because I really like using my mechanical keyboard.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by neogodless »

endor5639 wrote: post #160
neogodless wrote: post #114

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I'm familiar with the use case for this. I don't want to use the same keyboard for work (typing) all day that I'd use for gaming after work. I also don't want TWO wired keyboards. So if I can have a wireless gaming keyboard that I set off out of the way during work, and then can push my main keyboard (wired ergonomic membrane) out of the way and use the gaming keyboard (wireless mechanical), I have the ideal input de…

The Microsoft sculpt keyboard is their wireless ergo model

Yes, I used it for a while. I have a strong preference for full-depth keys over chiclet.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Jim_Heckler »

IE6 wrote: post #73
zweifuss wrote: post #13

What I don't like about the MX keyboards is that they don't have an IBM compatibility mode. For example, the pause key is Start+Fn+B. So the familiar break combination in Visual Studio CTRL+Pause is CTRL+Start+Fn+B. The Fn key is on the left, so it requires two-handed operation. Some key combinations can not be reached at all, not even as a macro. The macro facility (progammable key) is near useless anyway.

fwiw this has more to do with keyboard layout and pcb programming than the switches - my 'tex shinobi' board has a dedicated Pause key (and more).

they meant "Logitech MX" not "Cherry MX"
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