This isn't an apology for China. It's about time they moved to the 'maturity' stage of an empires life.
The Xinjiang Police Files
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It’s just that it’s not all that different from prison Except for it's reason for existence ( forced cultural assimilation aka genocide) and it's methods, which include forced sterilisations alongside the regular torture?
There's no valid evidence of that.
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#23Hard to watch. Reminder me of the torturing at Guantánamo Bay detention camp.
The torture seems similar, but the scale is completely different. In Xinjiang, it’s been at least 1.2 million people making up a sizable portion of all Uighur Muslims. That’s compared to around 800 people in Guantanamo Bay (and only about 40 remaining there). Guantanamo Bay is completely horrible and should never have happened, but it wasn’t genocide.
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#24The hacker must have trouble walking around... y'know, because of his gigantic balls? All jokes aside, I wonder how denialists will react to this. And I'm curious how China will attempt to explain this away. Can't wait for more detailed reports to come out. BBC's report [1] has been particularly interesting so far. I wonder what happens next. 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-c...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/china-xin... https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-...
Same with The Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/the-uyghur-chronicles/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/uy... https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/08/ch...
Interesting is the detail that Chinese state agents routinely attempt to silent Uyghur voices outside of China as well: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/800118582/i-thought-it-would-....
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The torture seems similar, but the scale is completely different. In Xinjiang, it’s been at least 1.2 million people making up a sizable portion of all Uighur Muslims. That’s compared to around 800 people in Guantanamo Bay (and only about 40 remaining there). Guantanamo Bay is completely horrible and should never have happened, but it wasn’t genocide.
Can you point me to the documents describing systemic (EDIT: Systemic, as opposed to a crime committed by a rogue prison guard) torture in those “camps”? Guantanamo is indeed different, because it was only used for people to extract information from - vast majority of “war against terrorism” victims have been simply killed instead.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you point me to the documents describing systemic (EDIT: Systemic, as opposed to a crime committed by a rogue prison guard) torture in those “camps”? Guantanamo is indeed different, because it was only used for people to extract information from - vast majority of “war against terrorism” victims have been simply killed instead.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55794071
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#27Hard to watch. Reminder me of the torturing at Guantánamo Bay detention camp.
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#28Just don't like the organisation behind this leak, at all, and don't really trust them. But as long as this leak is objective I can ignore this aspect.
Really sickening to see what's going on in Xinjiang.
EDIT: I said it's sickening to see what's going on and i strongly oppose what China is doing in Xinjang, am I really getting downvotes just because I don't like the "Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation"?
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