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Re: The Xinjiang Police Files

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Every great nation is built on unspeakably evil things like this. It seems almost like it's part of the cost of entry to being a super power.

This isn't an apology for China. It's about time they moved to the 'maturity' stage of an empires life.

Re: The Xinjiang Police Files

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> It’s just that it’s not all that different from prison Except for it's reason for existence ( forced cultural assimilation aka genocide) and it's methods, which include forced sterilisations alongside the regular torture?

There's no valid evidence of that.

Well, I am sure that independent investigators will be welcomed with open arms any moment now to set the record straight. I am being facetious of course, because wherever these kinds of events transpire (and regardless of the alleged perpetrator) there seemingly magically pops up barriers to establishing what is actually going on.

Re: The Xinjiang Police Files

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Hard to watch. Reminder me of the torturing at Guantánamo Bay detention camp.

The torture seems similar, but the scale is completely different. In Xinjiang, it’s been at least 1.2 million people making up a sizable portion of all Uighur Muslims. That’s compared to around 800 people in Guantanamo Bay (and only about 40 remaining there). Guantanamo Bay is completely horrible and should never have happened, but it wasn’t genocide.

where do you see the evidence of fortune?? have u even tried learning about terrorist attacks against ordinary citizens in China?

Re: The Xinjiang Police Files

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The hacker must have trouble walking around... y'know, because of his gigantic balls? All jokes aside, I wonder how denialists will react to this. And I'm curious how China will attempt to explain this away. Can't wait for more detailed reports to come out. BBC's report [1] has been particularly interesting so far. I wonder what happens next. 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-c...

The New Yorker has also had some pretty in-depth reporting on abuses in Xinjiang:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/china-xin... https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-...

Same with The Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/the-uyghur-chronicles/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/uy... https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/08/ch...

Interesting is the detail that Chinese state agents routinely attempt to silent Uyghur voices outside of China as well: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/800118582/i-thought-it-would-....

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The torture seems similar, but the scale is completely different. In Xinjiang, it’s been at least 1.2 million people making up a sizable portion of all Uighur Muslims. That’s compared to around 800 people in Guantanamo Bay (and only about 40 remaining there). Guantanamo Bay is completely horrible and should never have happened, but it wasn’t genocide.

Can you point me to the documents describing systemic (EDIT: Systemic, as opposed to a crime committed by a rogue prison guard) torture in those “camps”? Guantanamo is indeed different, because it was only used for people to extract information from - vast majority of “war against terrorism” victims have been simply killed instead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55794071

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point me to the documents describing systemic (EDIT: Systemic, as opposed to a crime committed by a rogue prison guard) torture in those “camps”? Guantanamo is indeed different, because it was only used for people to extract information from - vast majority of “war against terrorism” victims have been simply killed instead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55794071

You will find similar testimonies about prisons in western countries. It’s sad, but unavoidable due to scale.

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Hard to watch. Reminder me of the torturing at Guantánamo Bay detention camp.

If a Xinjiang “education camp”, where regular people are jailed and tortured, reminds you of Guantanamo, imagine how much more brutal the likes of Chinese Guantanamo would be, places where dissidents, falling political rivals of the current leadership or those deemed the state’s enemies are imprisoned.

Re: The Xinjiang Police Files

#28
I hope that this is a genuine leak showing what's going on there.

Just don't like the organisation behind this leak, at all, and don't really trust them. But as long as this leak is objective I can ignore this aspect.

Really sickening to see what's going on in Xinjiang.

EDIT: I said it's sickening to see what's going on and i strongly oppose what China is doing in Xinjang, am I really getting downvotes just because I don't like the "Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation"?

Re: The Xinjiang Police Files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55794071

You will find similar testimonies about prisons in western countries. It’s sad, but unavoidable due to scale.

Care to show those similar testimonies so we can compare?
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