Guns, Privacy, and Crime

you actually made the point of it.. when the populace is unarmed, the thugs can bully / rob / coerce just using muscle and knives, which makes the law abiding citenzry less safe imho.. but of course some will see it that way and some will not - much of individuals view point depends on where live / work.. people in nice places, surrounded by other nice places are more insulated from the more prevalent daily violence of the less nice places - the people who live and work in thos different places often see it differently.

anyway the saying is still true - outlaw X and only outlaws will have X - just like we outlawed drugs and have had a big expensive war on them for a long time - they are outlawed and wow, outlaws have them.

Sure you'd see some street crews using guns less if very few people had them, but you'd defeinely have gangs that had guns, there's just too much money in the game, and you already have supply chains getting kilos of other things to you that are not supposed to exist in the country.

Also if the criminal groups in Germany had Honduras, Mexico, El Salvador and their neighbors a train ride away, they would absolutely be using guns more imho.

Every place on earth is apples to oranges when trying to compare the situation in the US in regards to these interconnected issues.

His argument was that a lot of people being armed leads to regular standoffs. CCW being very common and leading to almost no standoffs over stupid arguments absolutely does address it. I'm ignoring comparing individuals to nation states, which is just silly.

agree that they are sought by burglars and add that much of the car crime has that as primary focus it seems.

disagree that they never stop crimes. many of the times they stop crimes they are not reported, and even if reported would not make it to any stats.

It's easy to see this if you just think of the hundreds of stops each day in every city in which an armored car pulls up to get money. Literally hundreds of times every day people with guns are preventing crime that would be progress.

There are several reasons for this.

One being that we currently can not (currently legally) use deadly force to protect property like they can in Texas..

Although the desire to change that is changing bit by bit every week as hundreds of cars are broken into every week (and have been).

Two is that cops here have not pursued car break-ins very well imho. Even when you call them with video evidence, a license plate, full description of act in progress.. crickets.. everyone knows this - and it makes it worse.

I went to a MNPD meeting a couple years ago and they had proof that criminals were targeting two particular locations in the area in which the business had the TSA thing Posted saying you have to leave guns in your car, can't being them in.

Another factor is that juveniles have particular high reward and low risk of punishment. Everyone knows it - and they use it to their advantage a lot. There's nest cam video of one woman following her kids in her car while they hit car after car / house after house.

Every other week the cops put our a report saying lock your car, so many guns stolen this week - blah blah.. it's like they are blaming the victims instead of helping to do more policing.

This isn't a dig at the cops - I get it, they are understaffed, have lots of priorities and even when they catch people they often do no time.. so why go chasing after some kids that are likely to shoot back at you (which they did to some cops about 18 months ago or so)

Yes other reasons include that there are lots of guns in and around Nashville. So the odds of getting one when you break into a car are higher than in NY or Frisco I guess.

Another thing is that gun safes for a car are not optimal at this time. Sure if you have a one of the few vehicles they make direct fit safes for, you can spend a couple bills and get a good one - but we need better options.

There are of course many other factors, income inequality and so many other things of course, it's a long list, I hate to see people try to point at any one thing and say 'yeah if that then this would't be a thing' -

So I've been brainstorming this now again for a while, and chatted with an auto-body shop guy for a bit and am thinking of a combination of an existing safe option that is around 20 bucks combined with a metal U that goes around the part of the passenger seat thing and locks similar to a clamp on cables like a dog runner - this kind of thing could make a huge impact and I should spend some more time on it.

You can choose red or blue and someone to represent you for 4-5 years (this is not democracy, its 'representative democracy' - the people choose nothing); you can't choose not to follow government edicts - eg shutting down schools, the economy; you do not have freedom of assembly (in Canada you can have your bank account frozen); in Canada you cannot travel by plane or train if you are not vaccinated; passports are a government id - not sure why this is a benefit to you; etc.

But, as long as the governance system has you convinced its a good thing, it's all fine.