An armed society is a polite society.
-- RAH
Guns, Privacy, and Crime
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Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you implying that blind people are somehow irresponsible on account of their disability?
I suppose I am, yes. Not of all blind people of course, but of one that owns and fires a gun. How can a blind person shoot a gun in a responsible way?
> How can a blind person shoot a gun in a responsible way?
Don’t be simple-minded. Blind people can shoot a gun responsibly the same as anyone else: be sure of your target and what’s behind it. Yes, that’s more difficult for persons that have impaired or even no usable vision, but knowing many legally blind persons I can assure you that they are responsible firearms owners.
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you implying that blind people are somehow irresponsible on account of their disability?
I suppose I am, yes. Not of all blind people of course, but of one that owns and fires a gun. How can a blind person shoot a gun in a responsible way?
Point blank?
Edit: Also legally blind != completely blind.
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#64I'm a bit surprised, I would have guessed publishing permit holder locations would have lead to organized and targeted attempts to monitor and steal guns from the households listed. (In the same sort of way I'd expect people to smash and grab a truck with an NRA sticker to maybe find a gun in the glove box.) Edit: Would it be different if the publication didn't bin by zip code?
Targeting and burglarizing homes of known gun-owners seems like a great way to have a very short criminal career.
Waiting for people to leave their house for work and such seems low risk?
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#65An armed society is a polite society. -- RAH
And that sentence is made up. It is sentence from fictional story. It does not accurately describes how real world works. Many cultures full of gun are super rude - macho dudes proving masculinity and low level criminals are more likely to have guns and are way less polite then average person.
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#66I'm a bit surprised, I would have guessed publishing permit holder locations would have lead to organized and targeted attempts to monitor and steal guns from the households listed. (In the same sort of way I'd expect people to smash and grab a truck with an NRA sticker to maybe find a gun in the glove box.) Edit: Would it be different if the publication didn't bin by zip code?
Targeting and burglarizing homes of known gun-owners seems like a great way to have a very short criminal career.
Guns are one of the most common things burglars are looking for when they’re robbing a home.
Contrary to some popular rhetoric, people with guns effectively never stop crimes in progress.
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sort of thinking directly brought about WW1 as well as the Cuban missile crisis. If everyone was armed then society's short-fused lunatics are the ones most likely to misjudge a situation and start shooting first over something trivial. Goes a long way to explaining most shootings by the police too.
CCW is very common in the US now, CCW holders are less likely to commit crimes than police officers. In general CCW or constitutional carry states don't see big wild west shoutouts at grocery stores so no. People are generally good and honest. Criminals are the exception to that, except they don't really care about whether or not carrying a weapon is illegal.
Are they less likely than non-CCW permit holders?
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
CCW is very common in the US now, CCW holders are less likely to commit crimes than police officers. In general CCW or constitutional carry states don't see big wild west shoutouts at grocery stores so no. People are generally good and honest. Criminals are the exception to that, except they don't really care about whether or not carrying a weapon is illegal.
A quick google search brought up a statistic from Pittsburgh 2008 where roughly 1/5 of perpetrators were the legal owners of the gun used in a crime. Gun crimes are so much more prevalent in the US vs practically any other developed country. Usually by leaps and bounds. Australia used to have around 20% of US gun death rate for years. In 1996 they introduced strict gun control laws. Decline in gun deaths was gradual,…
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Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#69I lived out in Berlin where basically nobody except the police and the (really) bad guys are armed. Sure, there's burglary, but much more likely was bicycle theft... I had three stolen in one calendar year. To be honest, I was more comfortable that none of my a-hole neighbors were armed, because they would have pulled a gun on you for leaving out the rubbish an hour too early or talking to loudly after 8pm.
Eh. I live in a state where a lot of people own firearms, myself included, and have open carry laws as well as concealed carry permits. It really isn't a big deal. Unfortunately humans are humans and, worse, Americans are Americans, and crazy people go crazy and do crazy person shit with a lot more regularity than we'd like, which is only compounded by easy access to firearms. But I'm willing to bet most of my neighb…
I grew up in a place where gun ownership was the norm, and I have had a gun pulled on me in anger following a mutual fault car accident. People fuck up and get mad, confrontation happens. It is better for everyone if having firearms at hand is not the norm.
Aside from that I also caught a stray bullet in the hand when I was 15. I was in the woods, it was hunting season, I should have known better, etc etc. Hundreds of miles of beautiful nature that it was my fault I was injured while exploring.
The rural american attitude towards guns is indefensible. It just is. I'm as much a product of that culture as anyone, and in some ways as country as they come. But the problem isn't "crazy people" it is the guns.
Re: Guns, Privacy, and Crime
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
CCW is very common in the US now, CCW holders are less likely to commit crimes than police officers. In general CCW or constitutional carry states don't see big wild west shoutouts at grocery stores so no. People are generally good and honest. Criminals are the exception to that, except they don't really care about whether or not carrying a weapon is illegal.
A quick google search brought up a statistic from Pittsburgh 2008 where roughly 1/5 of perpetrators were the legal owners of the gun used in a crime. Gun crimes are so much more prevalent in the US vs practically any other developed country. Usually by leaps and bounds. Australia used to have around 20% of US gun death rate for years. In 1996 they introduced strict gun control laws. Decline in gun deaths was gradual,…
Legal owner is not the same thing as CC permit holder, and CC permit holders to seem to be safer than other gun owning or carrying categories and rarely involved in altercations or crimes.
Australia is a highly ambiguous example of gun control success for numerous reasons.
It's also worth noting that the funding and law enforcement capacity to disarm the US were stringent gun control legal is borderline impossible, if not just impossible, from a purely mathematical perspective when compared to things the like the war on drugs and considering the sheer number of guns owned.