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Post by FabHK »

soco wrote: post #124
hhlevnjak2 wrote: post #115

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Perhaps it would work in DE, but it can create wrong incentives. Here in Croatia, we had "free" public transport in some places for i.e. students travelling to school. But the price was still paid for by the cities/government to service operators. Which led to inflated prices for the service because there's always a way for the operator and some officials to collude together for extra profit. And the increases weren'…

Corruption always finds a way, with or without free transport. What I mean, that cannot be a reason to not provide some service, because also the paid transport is getting (or can be) corrupted I suppose, just like everything else.

> Corruption always finds a way, with or without free transport.

Indeed. I've taken the train in Romania with a Romanian friend. The ticket for both of us would have been X$, say, but she talked to the conductor and paid him 1/3 X$ in cash to "look the other way" and ignore us. Conductor pocketed that, we traveled cheaper, and the company lost the revenue.

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Post by sdoering »

RektBoy wrote: post #180
Toutouxc wrote: post #170

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Related: We're a Czech couple, currently planning our vacation in the Netherlands, and we too are on a very tight budget. I wanted so bad to get there by train and spend the week there riding Dutch trains all over the place, but man, the train journey there and back is just as long as a car trip (~10-12 hours) and costs at least twice as much. Looks like we'll be taking our 50 MPG car instead and since it will be the…

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You lost me at "EU green-madness". It could have otherwise been a valid pov but this definitely changed the territory for me.

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Post by kuschku »

rostigerpudel wrote: post #164
kuschku wrote: post #119

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Which private regional bus companies or ride for hire bus companies are supposed to exist in Germany? I’m 26, but I’ve never heard or seen of any such company besides the long-distance travel with FlixBus (and formerly PostBus, InterCityBus, etc) The bus companies which operate official lines for Verkehrsverbünde will get paid the same as always, they’re not affected by the 9-Euro-Ticket.

Did you really never go somewhere on a rented bus when you were in school? You can rent a bus with driver eg. for the company picnic or other touristic activities. However, I fail to see how that business, which usually involves a time constraint and direct point-to-point travels, would be impacted by this kind of ticket.

Not really, we always used the city busses. I know that business exists, but I don’t know any private bus business that’d be affected by this ticket (except, as mentioned, FlixBus)

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Post by kuschku »

jstummbillig wrote: post #179
MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way. Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of "villages" and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively. Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -> Berlin options: - By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20 - Regional…

Actually, the Hamburg-Berlin IRE should be covered by this ticket as well, which requires no changes at all.

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Post by FabHK »

april_22 wrote: post #86

The German government did that to compensate for rising gasoline prices. While I think that is in general appreciated by the public, I am not quite sure how many people aged 45 above will use this ticket. They trains will be super crowded this summer and people will just prefer to use their car instead.

> The German government did that to compensate for rising gasoline prices

In particular, the government reduced the taxes on gasoline due to the high gasoline prices, a purely populist insanity in these times of climate crisis. Then they remembered that they were elected on a pro-environment platform, and concluded that they also had to support those using public transport, and this was the result.

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Post by pflenker »

april_22 wrote: post #149
Scarblac wrote: post #133

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Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)

Especially for traveling across Germany, this ticket isn't quite useful, however I feel like it is marketed as "free traveling across Germany for a month" which isn't really the case. Am wondering how everything will play out next couple of months.

It's not uncommon to travel through Germany using only the regional trains. There are several tickets tailored to this, like the "Quer durch's Land Ticket", which is valid for a full day.

I, for one, used to travel a lot through Germany using only the Wochenendticket, which is the predecessor of the "Quer durch's Land" - Ticket and was only valid on Saturday or Sunday.

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Post by kuschku »

april_22 wrote: post #149
Scarblac wrote: post #133

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Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)

Especially for traveling across Germany, this ticket isn't quite useful, however I feel like it is marketed as "free traveling across Germany for a month" which isn't really the case. Am wondering how everything will play out next couple of months.

DB always had weekend or summer tickets that were heavily discounted and only allowed regional trains. Especially young adults and teenagers use those every year, they’re perfect if you’ve got more time than money.

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Post by switch007 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #109
Freak_NL wrote: post #104

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Credit cards aren't regular in Europe. They accept Maestro debit cards though, which almost everyone has, and cash.

> Credit cards aren't regular in Europe. Pretty sure it's just Germany being pig-headed about it for some reason. Everywhere else in Europe is perfectly happy to accept a credit card. I do 99.999% of all my spending on a credit card, like most millennial people or younger, and the only people in the developed world who this is a problem for is the Germans.

Come on that’s not fair. Don’t the Dutch hate credit cards too?
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