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Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

kappuchino wrote: post #127

For anyone wondering why 9€? Not 10€ or 15€ or ... - its consistent with 101 consumer psychology. First: Its not free, its subsidized by the state. Free would suggest for some "not worth it". Not you, most likely, but this is why some free offers are not taken (seriously). If you want to see what free does, look for the Luxemburg experient: https://www.mobiliteit.lu/en/tickets/free-transport/ Second: Higher price poi…

Sweden does something similar, they offer unlimited regional rail passes for 1-2 month period during the summer - theirs are quite a bit more expensive than this though. I think closer to 100-150 euro for 2 months if I remember correctly.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by april_22 »

franciscop wrote: post #129

When it gets crowded in Tokyo trains you are literally pushed against each other, back to front people against people, specially bad in summer where the aircon cannot keep up. That's only at 9am normally though, and so I do not consider jobs that make me be in the office at that time (9:30~10 is an order of magnitude better). WFH has been a blessing to Tokyo. So it was funny when I visited my sister in a rural town i…

People in Germany are typically not very contact friendly and since COVID it got way worse. People here rather stand than sit next to a stranger, sometimes even across. The trains will be beyond crowded this summer (especially the ones going to the sea), so it will be interesting to watch how people will react. I think though the ticket will mainly be used by younger people which are typically more open to this.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

I know DB is owned by the state but I'm anyway interested in whether the difference to the original price is subsidized by the state. Or if it's just a special offer that allows them to cover expenses.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by rostigerpudel »

kuschku wrote: post #119
freemint wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be confusing regional bus with long distance bus travel or ride for hire bus companies which will also be impacted.

Which private regional bus companies or ride for hire bus companies are supposed to exist in Germany? I’m 26, but I’ve never heard or seen of any such company besides the long-distance travel with FlixBus (and formerly PostBus, InterCityBus, etc) The bus companies which operate official lines for Verkehrsverbünde will get paid the same as always, they’re not affected by the 9-Euro-Ticket.

Did you really never go somewhere on a rented bus when you were in school? You can rent a bus with driver eg. for the company picnic or other touristic activities.

However, I fail to see how that business, which usually involves a time constraint and direct point-to-point travels, would be impacted by this kind of ticket.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by tut-urut-utut »

Ekaros wrote: post #128

Hmm, so social distancing is truly gone and they don't fear this action massively spreading the COVID virus?

I guess the German health minister and quite a bit of regional health ministers would be thrilled if the numbers of Covid-19 cases increase. Then they can try again to push that mandatory vaccination that failed last time in parliament only due to interpersonal ego issues.

They already ordered a few hundreds of millions of vaccines.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by sascha_sl »

bowsamic wrote: post #120
sascha_sl wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I can't wait for the usual politicians from FDP and Union to draw the conclusion that free or cheaper public transport will forever be unfeasible, not that we need to invest more into the rail network.

Here in Hamburg it's really the busses that get overwhelmed. The S-Bahn and U-Bahn are rarely overly full compared to the busses.

I'm from the south of Hamburg. The lines served by Metronom are probably the most tightly scheduled around. They don't even have time to stop at the terminus most of the time, so they carry delays forward throughout the entire day. The reason no S-Bahn goes far south is also that Dostos can still carry more people despite the slow acceleration/breaking.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by germanier »

Aeolun wrote: post #150
germanier wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good A few days ago Deutsche Bahn has started to label some trains with an RE number (e.g. running Norddeich-Bremen or Stuttgart-Singen) with "9-Euro-ticket not valid".

That seems to defeat the point. Any idea why they’d do that?

These are all[0] long-distance trains that due to an agreement with the local transit commissioning authority accept regional train tickets and therefore got assigned an RE train number (some even added some stops due to such an agreement).

[0]: I know of one exception, though it looks like an honest mistake.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by [deleted] »

april_22 wrote: post #162
franciscop wrote: post #129

When it gets crowded in Tokyo trains you are literally pushed against each other, back to front people against people, specially bad in summer where the aircon cannot keep up. That's only at 9am normally though, and so I do not consider jobs that make me be in the office at that time (9:30~10 is an order of magnitude better). WFH has been a blessing to Tokyo. So it was funny when I visited my sister in a rural town i…

People in Germany are typically not very contact friendly and since COVID it got way worse. People here rather stand than sit next to a stranger, sometimes even across. The trains will be beyond crowded this summer (especially the ones going to the sea), so it will be interesting to watch how people will react. I think though the ticket will mainly be used by younger people which are typically more open to this.

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Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by rsynnott »

mbg721 wrote: post #154
soco wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not German, I live in a Swiss village and drive zero km a day. But I spend almost an hour/leg in public transport traveling door-to-door to the office when I go there (well, before covid much more often). I can also work in the train most of the time - 45 minutes of said hour - so that it counts as work time too. So, no reason to drive at all. I only take the car at weekends for doing shopping or doing some visits, e…

The reason I ask is that there's a stereotype that German-speaking Europeans especially all go everywhere with hyper-efficient trains that come every three minutes and are only a little bit less on-time than the ones in Japan, and that can't actually be true out in the countryside.

I mean, I think that most people understand that rural villages rarely have metro service; I don't think anyone was claiming that.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by Toutouxc »

Scarblac wrote: post #133
MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)

Related: We're a Czech couple, currently planning our vacation in the Netherlands, and we too are on a very tight budget. I wanted so bad to get there by train and spend the week there riding Dutch trains all over the place, but man, the train journey there and back is just as long as a car trip (~10-12 hours) and costs at least twice as much. Looks like we'll be taking our 50 MPG car instead and since it will be there with us, also using it to get around the country. Sorry about the pollution.
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