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Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by butterlesstoast »

MandieD wrote: post #51

Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…

For all the Americans. Converting from euros to USD and liters to gallons, gas is roughly $12 a gallon at this moment.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by dagw »

WA wrote: post #7
qwertox wrote: post #2

I think it's great, but honestly, placing it at 15€ would have made only a little difference to the consumer, who is already getting a lot for the value, and helped the railway operators a good deal. As a compromise the age of kids who can travel together with their parents for free could have been raised from 6 to 8 years.

Exactly the opposite. It should've been 0€, because then you: * don't have to sell tickets at all * don't have to check tickets in trains and reduce costs The overhead of selling tickets with the new price points might actually eat up all what's left of profits.

don't have to sell tickets at all

The infrastructure for selling tickets is already in place, the marginal cost of selling one extra ticket type is essentially zero,

don't have to check tickets in trains and reduce costs

Assuming you have to have at least one person working on the train anyway, for safety reasons if nothing else, having them also check tickets doesn't cost extra.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by riidom »

curiousfab wrote: post #25
mahesh_rm wrote: post #11

I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen.

I couldn't imagine why not. You just to to a ticket machine and buy it, no need for a passport or anything. Enjoy - Sylt is waiting for you, and you'll be there along with a million like-minded people!

Invade bavaria instead. As "thank you" for their threat of blocking the ticket :)

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by kuschku »

k__ wrote: post #10
WA wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly the opposite. It should've been 0€, because then you: * don't have to sell tickets at all * don't have to check tickets in trains and reduce costs The overhead of selling tickets with the new price points might actually eat up all what's left of profits.

How much does checking tickets cost?

This ticket only applies to regional trains. Regional trains usually have a staff of 1 (sitting in the locomotive, driving the train). Tickets are checked by random patrols, which don’t actually cost that much (in each given train at a given time you’ll have a chance of encountering them every few weeks at most).

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by april_22 »

The German government did that to compensate for rising gasoline prices. While I think that is in general appreciated by the public, I am not quite sure how many people aged 45 above will use this ticket. They trains will be super crowded this summer and people will just prefer to use their car instead.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by freemint »

ryukafalz wrote: post #80
macco wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people use the train instead of their cars, it will save energy by a lot. Trains are the most efficient form of transportation, cars the least efficient.

Bicycles are the most efficient form of transportation if we’re talking energy use, but yes, trains beat out cars by a lot. :)

Absolutetly not since the fuel (human food) is horribly CO2 intensive to produce.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by dagw »

fridek wrote: post #37
k__ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much does checking tickets cost?

Germany has about 1000 railway locomotives operating 40k runs a day. A conductor job pays on average 50k€/yr. Most trains I've seen have more than one conductor, and you need to plan for weekends, shifts, time off, etc. but the lower bound should be easy to agree on 50M€/yr or 12.5M€ for the duration of the program? Then there is the entire infra to sell tickets online, in machines and in person. At the same time the…

Most trains still need conductors even if they're not checking tickets. Having them check tickets when they're already there won't cost anything extra.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by Tenoke »

mrunkel wrote: post #61
Tenoke wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of trains this covers don't even have first class so they can save on those but I'm not convinced the savigns are all that big.

What trains would that be? Street cars and busses are the only ones I can think of that don't have first class. Everything from the S-Bahn and "up" has a first class car or section.

In berlin neither the Sbahn nor the Ubahn has first class. The express trains (RE7, RB14, FEX) to the airport don't either as far as I remember and I don't see one when I check[0]. Similar for many other cities I believe, so I'd wager most travelers the 9e ticket is covering will be on vehicles that don't have first class anyway.

0. https://flughafenexpress.deutschebahn.com/fex-en/Tickets-and...

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by kilotaras »

Havoc wrote: post #43

Wild - that gets me barely a days worth of tube travel in london (6.5 EUR a day)

Yeah, UKs train tickets are ridiculous if you compare it to rest of Europe.

And that's not even case of UK just being generally more expensive, e.g. cheapest StAlbans - London (~25 km) yearly pass costs around £4k. About a 1000 pounds more than Switzerland GA travelcard which covers basically any form of public transport in Switzerland.

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