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Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

k__ wrote: post #10
WA wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly the opposite. It should've been 0€, because then you: * don't have to sell tickets at all * don't have to check tickets in trains and reduce costs The overhead of selling tickets with the new price points might actually eat up all what's left of profits.

How much does checking tickets cost?

You don’t actually check any tickets, you just pretend that tickets will be checked at random, regularly. Put up signs to with heavy fines & travel bans for breaking the rules, run some fake newspaper stories of heavy enforcement etc. Make it socially embarrassing not to pay etc etc

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by Tenoke »

archi42 wrote: post #21
qwertox wrote: post #2

I think it's great, but honestly, placing it at 15€ would have made only a little difference to the consumer, who is already getting a lot for the value, and helped the railway operators a good deal. As a compromise the age of kids who can travel together with their parents for free could have been raised from 6 to 8 years.

This is a matter of perspective. The ticket is not aimed solely at people with median income of a tech worker (or the typical HN crowd), but help out the general populace as a whole. Including those who can not even afford a car. Now I think when the times comes (3 month from now) for the program to run out, we might see discussions about continuing it at a price that makes it a more sustainable, permanent offer. But…

> more sustainable, permanent offer

Seems pretty unlikely that they'll be able to after a 3 month period of operating at a loss (for the government) and likely having more issues due to increased usage.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by sva_ »

Im really curious to what extend this will affect how full/busy regional transit will be.

I also wonder what happens to the people who control tickets fulltime. Their job seems pretty pointless when almost everyone has the ticket.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by Tenoke »

anaisbetts wrote: post #15
WA wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly the opposite. It should've been 0€, because then you: * don't have to sell tickets at all * don't have to check tickets in trains and reduce costs The overhead of selling tickets with the new price points might actually eat up all what's left of profits.

They still have to check tickets in trains because this only applies to one class of train, and they already are paying people to check tickets and can't/shouldn't fire them all for three months only to bring them all back

A lot of trains this covers don't even have first class so they can save on those but I'm not convinced the savigns are all that big.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

#46

Post by bowsamic »

I'm extremely not excited about how insanely rammed the public transportation is going to be for the next three months

Already here in Hamburg the busses are not at all empty!

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by chrisseaton »

mahesh_rm wrote: post #11

I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen.

> I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen.

Biggest hurdle will be getting a Germany ticket machine to accept a regular credit card!

But otherwise, isn't discriminating based on nationality for good and services illegal?

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by mbg721 »

alecco wrote: post #19

Populism. This will make the country consume more energy. There's a crisis and the solution is saving as much energy as possible. And help companies not go bankrupt. But that doesn't sell...

When is there not a crisis? If you're running a train anyway, the marginal cost of attaching a couple more cars for the extra demand seems pretty small.

Re: 9-Euro-Ticket

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Post by phh »

chmod775 wrote: post #40
phh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh this offer is paid by the railway operators, not by the government?

No. It's paid for by the government and expected to cost around 2.5 billion EUR. It's part of this: https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Standardar...

Thanks. Then I don't understand commenter's "helped the railway operators a good deal"
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