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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I've got an iPhone 13 Mini. I brought it, because I suspect that it will be the last small-format phone Apple makes. I figure it's good for a couple of years.

I have a lot of Apple gear (I develop Apple native apps). I tend to use the Mini phone, and the Mini iPad, the most. The rest of the stuff sits around, until it's testing/screenshot time.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Has anybody tried the $32 SOYES XS11 or $70 or UNIWA XS11 It's a 2.5 inch 3G Android phone. http://www.cwell-hk.com/products/SOYES_XS11.aspx Lots of small Android phones are in the recommended section on cwell-hk in the $40 range.

Unfortunately, the lack of LTE makes it unusable in the US.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Do you have any issues with apps and layouts misbehaving because of the small screen? Being annoying to type on is a feature, but is it basically impossible?

Sometimes websites with big popups fuck with you, but then again we ought to be avoiding those websites anyway. I haven't noticed any issues with apps. Typing is much easier than you would think. With swipe typing it's almost at par.

Cool. What about typing passwords, codes, numbers? I'd wager without social media those would be the most common things I'd type

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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This is why I'm not moving on from my Pixel 4a. If it ever dies, I'll go on eBay or wherever and buy a new one. I don't even care if it goes EOL and stops receiving security updates. TBH if I do end up replacing it with something else, it doesn't have to be stock Android or even a powerful device. I'm okay with replacing my 4a with some cheap ultra-budget shanzhai phone as long as it's small and it works with T-Mobil…

For me the more problematic aspect of the 4a is the updates it’s receiving make it so much slower. For instance at this point opening the camera takes around 3s, and the shutter button lags 2s as well.

Going back yo the previous OS would fix that, but it was also buggy and missing proper support for the new gesture navigation. I love the phone but it also makes me hate Google so much.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I wouldn’t call 10 m a year „doesn’t sell“. It might not sell like the bigger ones but there’s definitely a market for it

Clearly not enough to warrant a production line, otherwise there would be some offerings for it from some Android maker.

Or is it that marketing has been telling customers that bigger is better for the past decade? I wouldn't give too much credit to an average consumer.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I wonder how much of the limited sales of the iPhone mini could be attributed to the branding? What if Apple were to drop the mini and make this the base iPhone, with the other models being Plus, Pro, Max? Margins may be poorer with Mini, so it likely won’t happen, but I feel mini sales could be much higher if they wanted them to be.

> Margins may be poorer with Mini,

But they don't necessarily have to be. We've never had an option where, for the same price, you could choose screen sizes. There's a sizable portion of people for whom larger phones are simply difficult to use. Would I have paid an extra $50 for my iPhone 12 mini? Yep, because I was buying based on the size, not the price.

This is so weird compared to 20 years ago, where the smaller the phone was, the more expensive it was. The big bulky phones were a sign that you couldn't afford the smaller one. A few friends joke that I couldn't afford a 'real' phone when I pull out my 12 mini, which... is nuts because I bought it outright, and a couple of them worry about 'when can I upgrade? oh, let me check how many more payments I have on this current model'.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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>That is more than enough demand to cover the NREs and costs of making a phone. Then why is Apple dropping it ?

I half suspect that Apple will be coming back with another small phone a few years down the line and then a cycle will continue where they will always have something like an SE or mini, but it won't ever be flagship level.

I feel like that has been the problem with the Mini. I love mine (which I got because I was fed up with Pixel and Android in general), but I know I only have it because I got in at the right time. My wife bought an iPhone at the wrong time and hers is comically large. She would have happily bought an iPhone Mini if it had been available that year. By the time she needs a new iPhone, it will be another year where the only options are gigantic.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I jumped at getting the iPhone 13 mini immediately and haven’t looked back. I remember having an iPhone 5 and how much I loved the formfactor for the same reasons OP mentions. Sure the battery sucks and the phone locks up from too many things happening sometimes, but those are perfectly fine trade offs for a phone that fits into my life and isn’t my life. When I bought my 13 mini I also bought the new iPad mini to ha…

That's a shame - I heard the 13 Mini had acceptable battery life. And for someone that doesn't make their phone their life that's especially surprising.

I don't make my phone my life, and the 12 Mini has enough battery for me. I charge it every other day, but I have to admit it feels it holds less charge than my old iPhone 8.

I only use it for Whatsapp, bathroom break HN and a few calls a week. Everything else I do from my PC. Also, performance is great for me, I'm not planning on running games or k8s on my mobile.

EDIT: looks like you're talking about the 13 mini, I got the 12 mini, which IIRC has similar battery life complaints. Not sure if it got worse with the latest iteration.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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It is kinda old (2019), but Samsung S10e is imho _the_ small (android) phone. 5.8" 1080x2280 AMOLED display, with a tiny hole punch front camera; Snapdragon 855, 6/8gm RAM, 128/256gb of storage (with support for microsd card); two rear cameras (wide and ultrawide) with great image quality(imho); ip68; gorilla glass 5; 3.5mm jack; usb type c; wireless charging + reverse wireless charging; fingerprint on power button (…

I had to replace my phone because of the AT&T 3g shutdown and the fact that no company is going to pay AT&T to approve their old phone models. I got a S10E for pretty much the same reason: small, SD card, headphone jack, and resolution at least 1080x1920.

I tried searching for a modern phone that still has all this and there's nothing. The best I could find is a current Motorola phone; most of them still have jacks and SD cards and some have reasonable resolution, but they're all large size. Some of them also support the FM radio chip if you want that.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I have an iPhone 12 mini. I switched to iPhone with the XR and felt it was too big. My old Pixel 2 feels larger than the 12 mini with it's 5" screen versus the 12 mini's 5.4", and that's because it physically is overall larger. When the iPhone 12 lineup was announced, the main talking point about the mini among reviewers and whatnot was how poor battery life will be. To be honest, once I disabled the 5G (I'm not anti…

>> It's pretty easy to build an echo chamber that agrees smaller phones are preferred and make it appear as though there's a decent amount of us, but the simple fact is, people like us are in the minority, and it shows in the iPhone sales.

I'm not sure about that. This could be due to the marketing/positioning i.e. Apple first switched to producing bigger phones (with more features/power) which caused people to buy these bigger phones (there were no smaller & newer phones).

After some complaints, Apple produced a smaller version of their phone but they market it as one with less features (smaller battery, smaller processor, etc).

If Apple devoted resources to producing smaller sized phones with comparable features as the Pro, the statistics might be different. To be clear, a larger phone will always have some edge but the minis should not be clearly designed as a step down version phone

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