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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…

Pixel3 here, cause it's still pretty small (but not too small)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I have a question: how do you cope with on-screen keyboard, when screen is small? I'd like to have a phone which doesn't take too much space in a pocket, but I found that below 5.5" I have too much struggle typing. Should we ask for a physical kbd (say N900 style) if we want a new phone anyway?

Swipe typing.

This is the way

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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my dream would be a small linux phone (probably a couple years down the line once the software is a bit more stable), but I would settle for a small android phone as a primary device, to stay a bit more realistic in terms of market share. while we're sharing pipe dreams, i would love a physical keyboard like the n900 as well. i used my nexus 5 for 7 years or so, when i replaced it i didn't even realize there no longer were any phones of that size at all.

I don't even need premium, i just want anything at all. I really do hate my current phone, i can't even type on it properly with one hand, it's too big. I may begrudgingly end up replacing it with an iphone, the only reason I haven't yet is that it's locked down and I would miss f-droid, and the linux compatibility sucks. but of course android has its own problems (namely google trying to squeeze as much data as possible out of you, and making it as hard as they can to turn off the various settings related to that buried in different setting sub-menus)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

These "slow iPhone 13 mini" sales are more than all Google Pixel phones sold in a year. Think about that.

I don't understand when did the ability to choose a product fitting your preferences become a bad thing on HackerNews and modern American perception. Why is being able to buy niche products somehow not a worthy thing to be desired?

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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The Galaxy S10e is my current phone, and I'm not sure what I will do when it stops receiving security updates. It's basically perfect. It still has an SD card slot. It still has a headphone jack. It has wireless charging. It's reasonably sized. And it had flagship-for-the-time specs (albeit slightly less than the mainline S10 or S10+). Samsung doesn't make anything comparable to this anymore. The only drawback is tha…

If you have a bit of patience, install LineageOS. Samsung phones have a big following in this domain - as of today (May/2022), even the Galaxy S3 (Neo) is supported (!). I'm not saying it's trivial (it's not hard, but has a large enough amount of small actions to execute), but it's definitely worth doubling (or more) the phone duration. The FamousProducer™ of my phone supported it for 3 years. This is terrible. Linea…

IIRC, LineageOS support for US Samsung devices with Snapdragon CPUs has always been very limited. Rooting them is difficult, if not impossible, and I seem to remember that doing so blows some kind of fuse in the device itself which then irreparably caps the battery on the device to like 80%.

Given that the S10e's battery life is already waning, I'm not sure I want to do that. But yes! If there were a safe way to do so, I would gladly run LOS on the phone for ten years.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I touch on this on the site. 5% of iPhones sold are minis. That's 10m sold per year! That is more than enough demand to cover the NREs and costs of making a phone. * https://9to5mac.com/2022/04/21/cirp-iphone-13-best-selling-l...

5% seems quite small and not worth the trouble. It might be worth it if a small phone generated 5% in additional sales, but most people buying a small iPhone would likely buy a normal-sized iPhone if no small version was available rather than making the switch to Android.

The point is that 5% (or 10m phones) does not make sense for Apple to continue to build, but that has no relation to whether it's worth it to another company.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

> “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consumer. For a lot of people, phones are their primary computing devices, so a big screen is nice there. Bigger phones allow for more battery capacity.

My way of dealing with it is two phones. Besides my smartphone, I still use my more than ten-year-old Nokia when I do not want to take the big smartphone with me. Of course, it only has phone, SMS and a clock. But I usually do not need anything else when I go for a walk or meet up with friends. I just want to be reachable in case there is a problem.

Its old battry still lasts quite a long time, and I have it switched off most of the time anyway. So I can go 7+ days without recharging.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Shameless plug for the Jelly 2. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-2 It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm. The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on. I have gotten NOTHING but compliments on it since I started using it a month ago (on a reco I picked up here).

> It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm

How does it compare to the palm phone PVG100, usually available for 1/3 of the price? (new but in OEM box)

It seems much thicker.

Also, which network are you using?

https://www.unihertz.com/blogs/news/about-at-t-usage-in-the-...

> Recently, AT&T released a whitelist of smartphone brands that will continue to work on their network after February 2022. Unfortunately, Unihertz products are not among them.

I hope someone sues AT&T for its discriminative policy.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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The article person might want one, but people don't. That's why the iPhone Mini doesn't sell and is being axed.

I wouldn’t call 10 m a year „doesn’t sell“. It might not sell like the bigger ones but there’s definitely a market for it

Clearly not enough to warrant a production line, otherwise there would be some offerings for it from some Android maker.
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