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Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by randomsearch »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #150
randomsearch wrote: post #131

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Some people speculate whether the rise of SaaS is a response to FOSS, which made it difficult to monetise software development. I’ve certainly begun to question my previous automatic assumption that FOSS is a good thing in the long term. The good news for FOSS is that hosting costs just keep getting cheaper, so providing free SaaS is increasingly feasible. There’s also the “third way” of FOSS with a hosted option ava…

Wordpress is an example of that for the simple reason that it is a CMS, which by its very nature implies it works in a server-client fashion. Of course Wordpress can be run as SaaS or self-hosted–it is software that needs to be hosted to serve its purpose. On the other hand, editing vector graphics has no intrinsic need to be hosted. Just because a cloud-based FOSS desktop in the future could be imagined doesn't make…

Lots of points, but the most obvious one is with SaaS you can deploy a single version of software, which makes it orders off magnitude less difficult to maintain.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by franga2000 »

hollasch wrote: post #58

I will be very happy if one day I open up Inkscape and I'm not presented with a virtual sheet of paper as my starting point. I find it extraordinarily off putting to have to pretend I'm going to print out the end result.

Is your objection just that the default canvas size is A4 paper instead of let's say 1080p? Or is it that the canvas is finite at all?

Despite being "infinitely" scalable, SVGs still have a "native" scale and coordinste system, so it would be far more disorienting and error-prone to present the user with a blank infinite canvas instead. The default being paper size is a bit unusual since Inkscape isn't very suitable for print work (color spaces and all that), but these days you can pick a starting size in the launcher anyway, so most of the time when starting new projects you don't even see thr default.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by simonh »

revertmean wrote: post #145
simonh wrote: post #144

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All very good points and I don’t disagree with you. For me the issue is that FOSS is not a good model for generating the massive investment of resources needed to solve many problems. Inkscape is great and if your problem space happens to be adequately addressed by it then fine. It’s not anywhere close to addressing many of the use cases solved by proprietary DTP though and the pace of development is glacial. So I ap…

It's not surprising that Inkscape isn't "close to addressing many of the use cases solved by proprietary DTP", mainly because it's not really DTP software. It's Vector Graphics software. If you're looking for FOSS DTP, try Scribus.

Doh, not the first time I've conflated those projects.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by ant6n »

l8rlump wrote: post #154

This is the obligatory post suggesting Affinity Designer. It also appears they're running a 50% off sale: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ (No affiliation. I just notice it comes up in a lot of conversations here about Inkscape)

Why should one use this over Inkscape?

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by jeppester »

zuzun wrote: post #137
jeppester wrote: post #125

As a mostly web/app programmer Inkscape is a great tool to do minor alterations to icons, logos etc. Change an icon to use fills instead of strokes? No problem. Change colours? No problem. Align the image in the middle of viewport? Remove excessive spacing? Make icons from different sources the same size? Grab a logo from a PDF? No problem. Though my days as an aspiring graphics designer are long past, I would think…

> dynamic snapping This release adds alignment and distribution snapping, it's mentioned in the full release notes: https://media.inkscape.org/media/doc/release_notes/1.2/Inksc...

Great! I did see there was some mention of snapping but didn't dare to believe that it would be exactly the thing I was missing.

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by SemanticStrengh »

audidude wrote: post #22
sydthrowaway wrote: post #16

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Probably because it's single threaded going through multiple slow compatibility APIs.

Sort of, but it's not the whole story. They do use cairo for rendering to a CGContext via cairo_quartz_surface_t which has traditionally not been all that great on macOS. Additionally they're dealing with colorspace transforms on more recent macOS along with some bugs in macOS that were causing non-native applications to do considerable damage/redraws. If/when Inkscape moves to GTK 4, a lot of this will just go away.…

But GTK4 text rendering is blurry

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by Mordisquitos »

randomsearch wrote: post #151
Mordisquitos wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wordpress is an example of that for the simple reason that it is a CMS, which by its very nature implies it works in a server-client fashion. Of course Wordpress can be run as SaaS or self-hosted–it is software that needs to be hosted to serve its purpose. On the other hand, editing vector graphics has no intrinsic need to be hosted. Just because a cloud-based FOSS desktop in the future could be imagined doesn't make…

Lots of points, but the most obvious one is with SaaS you can deploy a single version of software, which makes it orders off magnitude less difficult to maintain.

I don't understand that argument. I sometimes use Inkscape but I never have more than a single version deployed on my device. Also, I don't think I'm putting any pressure on the maintainers if I were to insist on never updating from an older version.

Snarkiness aside, being able to "deploy a single version of software" is itself incompatible with the ability to self-host, making it a moot point for FOSS (let alone for FOSS that has no practical reason to be SaaS in the first place).

Re: Inkscape 1.2 released

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Post by Lio »

warning26 wrote: post #106
nerdponx wrote: post #45

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Meanwhile LibreOffice is way better than the original MS Word in my opinion.

Word 97 was amazing and leagues beyond LibreOffice, IMO. The best part is that the entire installed size of word 97 is like 50mb!

This is a really interesting opinion. Would you mind elaborating?

I don’t really use either Word or LibreOffice much as my needs are really simple, (I mostly get away with just plaintext tools).

What is it that separates these two for you?

Is it some specific missing features you rely on or something to do with UX?

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