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Or less than a junior L3 in the bay area at google.
And what does that salary get you in the bay area? Living in a tiny apartment with a homeless guy outside. No thanks.
Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto
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Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto
#32Are they going to pay enough for their developers to actually live near this Bay St office? Canadian developer salaries are abysmally low.
Yea I’m surprised how little Microsoft pays in Vancouver according to levels.fyi. If an American company paid 80% of American salary to Canadians they would have their pick of Canada’s top talent. This slowly appears to be happening with Meta jobs in Canada. Canada has the same time zones, a similar culture, is geographically close, the same language, and excellent computer science/engineering programs. What Canada d…
Replace Canada with EU and it's the same.
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> What Canada doesn’t have is a strong venture capital pool, a culture of risk taking I tried to raise a ~$300k seed round in Toronto in 2014. Most Canadian investors we met with wanted to see us have something like $10k/month in recurring revenue before considering an investment. We spent a week in SF and left with a $250k offer at a $4M valuation, when we were pre-revenue! (We declined, and eventually our business…
I haven’t seen any other country that tries new things and willing to spent than the US. That includes Europe and Asia. It’s quite disappointing really because the world is so much bigger than the US alone.
The US owns the money printer to the world trade currency (USD), and has the military force to defend this unique position, so of course it can afford to outspend everyone else.
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#34'Bout f'n time! They've been dining on Waterloo grads for just about ever now. Waterloo is possibly the best CS school in the world, but we keep ignoring it. (Or talking about Hamilton or Toronto or whatever and not that obvious gem in the crown.) This, too, is hilariously Canadian.
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I haven’t seen any other country that tries new things and willing to spent than the US. That includes Europe and Asia. It’s quite disappointing really because the world is so much bigger than the US alone.
>I haven’t seen any other country that tries new things and willing to spent than the US The US owns the money printer to the world trade currency (USD), and has the military force to defend this unique position, so of course it can afford to outspend everyone else.
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#36Are they going to pay enough for their developers to actually live near this Bay St office? Canadian developer salaries are abysmally low.
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>I haven’t seen any other country that tries new things and willing to spent than the US The US owns the money printer to the world trade currency (USD), and has the military force to defend this unique position, so of course it can afford to outspend everyone else.
That may be relevant to the US government, but the investors that would invest in startups don't have access to that printer.
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> "Well, not seeing too many here in Africa either." Microsoft has recently opened a development center in Kenya.
Is it just support? Do they do dev?
Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto
#39So is there an actual picture of the building and workspaces? I was hoping to see what a modern office looks like according to Microsoft.
Pics of inside at https://www.blogto.com/tech/2022/05/microsoft-new-headquarte... it doesn’t show too many of the meeting rooms and work areas though :( it is open plan, well lit, well furnished. Mirrors other recent MSFT offices.
Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yea I’m surprised how little Microsoft pays in Vancouver according to levels.fyi. If an American company paid 80% of American salary to Canadians they would have their pick of Canada’s top talent. This slowly appears to be happening with Meta jobs in Canada. Canada has the same time zones, a similar culture, is geographically close, the same language, and excellent computer science/engineering programs. What Canada d…
> What Canada doesn’t have is a strong venture capital pool, a culture of risk taking I tried to raise a ~$300k seed round in Toronto in 2014. Most Canadian investors we met with wanted to see us have something like $10k/month in recurring revenue before considering an investment. We spent a week in SF and left with a $250k offer at a $4M valuation, when we were pre-revenue! (We declined, and eventually our business…
The Canadian risk/reward curve is weird. They won't look at anything barely promising but will go "all in" once it hits a bit of traction (even if the business model is wonky)