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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by nijave »

999900000999 wrote: post #317
nijave wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, sending a vague email that makes me waste my time to figure out how much more I have to pay them is unreasonable. They could have just included prices side by side and a sample invoice under the new system with the last month's usage

Does AWS do this ? Unless your using DO at a very large scale the pricing difference isn't significant. I personally use AWS now since my skills with AWS are useful at work as well. That's the biggest perk of AWS to me. At the same time I've always found AWS to have convoluted confusing billing, at least DO is straight forward even if it's gone up a buck or so.

I don't think AWS has ever raised prices. Generally for a given service, prices are fixed and they'll either release a new version or a new machine generation with new pricing (and the old version usually has a very generous deprecation window).

AWS pricing can be confusing but they also offer significantly more services. I think it'd be more straight forward if they had the same number of products as Digital Ocean. Afaik they bill for the same things.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by fomine3 »

raffraffraff wrote: post #308
jakub_jo wrote: post #2

For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

I'm using Oracle Cloud always free tier, and I've got 4x VMs each with 1 Arm CPU, 6gb memory and 50gb disk. Free forever. You get a small amount of object storage and some free database (nosql/sql) but I'm mainly here for the 4 VMs to run a completely free k0s Kubernetes cluster.

Note that they terminate accounts for unknown reason https://www.reddit.com/r/oraclecloud/comments/tkbx04/oracle_...

Terrible support. https://community.oracle.com/tech/apps-infra/discussion/4496...

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by fomine3 »

oefrha wrote: post #162

I've been using Linode instead of DigitalOcean since ~2015 IIRC. I just checked their pricing page [1] and find it pretty hostile and confusing. First, you won't see any tech spec at all without clicking on a card; "starts at $blah/mo" means precious little without tech specs. Then, once you click on "Droplets" you get another grid(s) of cards where the tech specs are teeny-tiny and comparison is very painful. Compar…

I wish Akamai won't change Linode.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by hnzix »

boppo1 wrote: post #319
raffraffraff wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using Oracle Cloud always free tier, and I've got 4x VMs each with 1 Arm CPU, 6gb memory and 50gb disk. Free forever. You get a small amount of object storage and some free database (nosql/sql) but I'm mainly here for the 4 VMs to run a completely free k0s Kubernetes cluster.

How do they make money off this?

Platform lockin. Oracle enterprise pricing is eye watering.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by apple4ever »

Brian-Puccio wrote: post #298
Macha wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought Linode's "Nanode" ($5 VM) was several years after DO. I remember wishing Linode had a lower tier option and contemplating moving to DO back when Linode started at $20 for their lowest spec.

That’s my memory, too. Linode for a long time didn’t have a product at that very low price point.

That is right. I looked at both and since DO had the $5 VM and Linode didn't, I went with DO.

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Post by datashaman »

dolfje wrote: post #224
jakub_jo wrote: post #2

For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

I tried to create an account and got the following error message: Invalid characters, allowed are: A-Z a-z 0-9 ä ö ü ß Ä Ö Ü ^ ! $ % / ( ) = ? + # - . , ; : ~ * @ [ ] { } _ ° § What year is it, that we cannot use &?

I guess if they aren’t diligent with encoding urls that could be an attack vector because it separates query parameters.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by Wubdidu »

aosaigh wrote: post #15

Interesting (or maybe not?) that the App Platform and Spaces pricing hasn't changed. I've been migrating as many projects as possible over to App Platform + Managed DB + Spaces recently. Although it's been frustrating due to their documentation being lacking, I've found it great for simple projects and static websites once you get your head around it. It's certainly more expensive than running plain Droplets, but the…

App Platform is a great concept, but we hit a dealbreaking road block when trying to migrate some Python apps with job queues. Their runtime (gVisor) doesn't support semaphore locks, which is used by Pythons multiprocessing and in turn used by most job runners (we discovered it with django-q, but I think most, if not all of them including Celery, rely on this, see link below).

The build times for Dockerfiles are also atricious… our build failed after 40 minutes by running out of memory and the multi-stage Dockerfile really wasn't anything special. We would have just used the images hosted on Github Container Registry, but App Platform only supports a limited range of Docker registries too. Note: the images build in 3 minutes on Github Actions.

As far as I can see it is also not possible to add any block storage too. While I mostly work on projects that use object storage anyway, SOME things just need persistent block storage. Which is annoying, since DigitalOcean HAS block storage… just not for App Platform.

I really wanted to use it, but man they make it hard.

https://github.com/Koed00/django-q/issues/522#issuecomment-1...

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by likortera »

throwaway_98554 wrote: post #52
showerst wrote: post #32

I think this price increase is honestly pretty fair, but I really wish they'd show side by side prices, and offer me a tool to see what my total increase will be.

Why do you think the price increase is fair? If anything I would expect it to go down as computation and memory get cheaper.

Computation needs electricity, computers need maintenance, and the maintenance is done by people with salaries. People have to drive to work which uses gas. Parts of computers have to be shipped, which also needs gas.

Gas and electricity are going up.

You have no clue what you're talking about. Computation prices are not going down.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by andai »

CoolCold wrote: post #262
pchm wrote: post #110

So the price increase for the managed database is... 100%? Currently paying $240/mo for 16 GB RAM / 6vCPU / 270 GB Disk. The new price is $480/mo. We have a bunch of these databases at work, so I'm sure we'll be considering other providers now.

Hah, for 230 euro I run 160GB RAM, 2x512Gb + 2x3.8TB NVMe, AMD Epyc 32 cores CPU on Hetzner. Not saying you should do the same, just was a bit shocked and decided to share.

Dang, what are you doing with all that power?
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