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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#261
post #72

Everyone who reads this headline. Thinks their $5 Droplet is now $4. [Continues reading...] Realizes their $5 Droplet is now $6 (!).

Yea, it doesn't seem like such huge news to me they're intoducing a new $4 droplet when they had previously had a $5 droplet...and bumping that one to $6.

Even $6 is a lie: they're going to take "taxes" on top of that. One day we'll see a mandatory "tip" field with three choices: 15%, 20%, 25%.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#262
post #110

So the price increase for the managed database is... 100%? Currently paying $240/mo for 16 GB RAM / 6vCPU / 270 GB Disk. The new price is $480/mo. We have a bunch of these databases at work, so I'm sure we'll be considering other providers now.

Hah, for 230 euro I run 160GB RAM, 2x512Gb + 2x3.8TB NVMe, AMD Epyc 32 cores CPU on Hetzner.

Not saying you should do the same, just was a bit shocked and decided to share.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#263

To give some hobbyist level price increase numbers: I'm currently running two basic droplets at 8gb RAM and 4vCPU, which is basically just enough resources for a proper dev kubernetes cluster with Promethueus, Loki, 5-6 apps, etc (4gb 4vCPU is not enough, I tried). I also run a third 1gb1vcpu management droplet outside the cluster as well as a load balancer in front of my API gateway and a spaces instance to dump bac…

I'm pretty sure GCP's managed kubernetes service offers 1 control plane as part of the free tier

Was going to say the same. If its just 1 cluster then you probably will be cheaper overall on GCP.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#264
post #110

So the price increase for the managed database is... 100%? Currently paying $240/mo for 16 GB RAM / 6vCPU / 270 GB Disk. The new price is $480/mo. We have a bunch of these databases at work, so I'm sure we'll be considering other providers now.

Hah, for 230 euro I run 160GB RAM, 2x512Gb + 2x3.8TB NVMe, AMD Epyc 32 cores CPU on Hetzner. Not saying you should do the same, just was a bit shocked and decided to share.

A server is not a managed database

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#265

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Oracle gives you 10TB of monthly bandwith + a 4 core/24gb ram ARM VM + 1 or 2 (can't remember) 1Core/1GB x86 AMD Epyc core... for free. If you are just looking to get a cloud VM for personal projects, it's by far your best option. It's a bit weird to say considering it's oracle, but there's no catch and no hidden costs. As long as you don't upgrade to a paid account, there's no way to even mess up and get charged

Limited to 50mb/s ... But yes ... It's free :)

Is that really the case? I just ran the CLI version of speedtest.net and I got way more than the 4Gbps that oracle advertises. Though I only ran the test on ARM, and I know AMD VMs get much less bandwidth. I also wouldn't be surprised if my results aren't representative of real world sustained usage.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#266
post #170

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Have used them for a long time (I had their 2EUR VPS for ages, let go of it a few months ago but they honoured the price even when they were charging 4EUR for that spec). Very good customer support. I am a little worried about future prices though with electricity costs in Germany (although they have VPS in the US and Finland). Contabo and Netcup are alternatives. Contabo has options in the UK/US/Singapore but is als…

I wouldn't run anything too important on OVH. It is cheap though. https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/opinions/ovhclouds-dat...

I was affected by that fire (lost a VPS), but everything was up again a few hours later. All I had to do was to order a new VPS and restore my (very regular) backups.

The key is to be ready to recover from failure. OVH had a fire, but disks, backups, network, power, etc, can (and do) fail on premium providers. While this may say something about OVH, the effect on you as a customer is essentially the same: downtime, data loss, etc.

My experience with OVH until that point was good. 4 years without problems. I had another VPS and one dedicated server - different datacenters to avoid the "all eggs in the same basket" problem - and they were fine. The dedi, for example, I kept it from early 2017 until 6 months ago when I moved to Hetzner (better hardware, same price) and never had any issues.

I understand that not everyone can or wants to do things this way, but sometimes the savings are huge and that allows you to have more redundancy or to save money. For example, one of my websites uses a bit of bandwidth... last time I checked, it would cost around 2k/mo to run it on AWS, but only ~90 euros/mo on OVH/Hetzner. I can have another 2 replicas/servers ready to go in case of a problem and still save money.

And it's not only servers. For example, I was using S3 to store backups. Now I backup to providers like Backblaze B2, Wasabi, etc, at the same time and still save money. When I had to restore the VPS lost in the fire, I did it from my Wasabi backups because they don't charge for egress (fair use). Overall I still pay less, have more copies in different datacenters and providers, and don't have to worry about the costs of restoring backups (at least not as much).

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#267

Oh! They have increased the prices! I went to the page hoping price reductions. Looks like inflation is changing the dynamics for the hosting business too.

I think it's overcharging customers to see how much they can get away with, like netflix. Jump on the "iTs inFlAtIoN" bandwagon and see how much profit you can squeeze out and see how well you can handle customer attrition while doing it. If it goes bad just say "oh looks like inflation is lightening up a bit now". I call it the Netflix Gambit (circa 2022)

Armchair hacker news CEO knows what is REALLY going on behind the scenes at digital ocean.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#268
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, but that doesn't impact existing hardware. So unless this upgrade includes things like newer CPUs or more ram/disk for a droplet that doesn't apply, and as far as I can tell, the hardware I started on 4 years ago is the same. At least they've not advertised any new CPUs or increased disk or ram.

Increased energy prices absolutely impacts current hardware, especially given older hardware tends to be more energy intensive.

So the $5 I was paying for a droplet was all for electricity? DO doesn't have a plan to recoup capex?

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#269
post #2

For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

I saw a clip of their datacenter tour and was not inspiring any confidence. But, I am sure they'd work just fine.

"You get you pay for", even if it is half true accounting for DO's shareholder's pressure, I think Hetzner is impossibly cheap.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

#270

Let's see, I host Dokku in a VPS. For 7 USD/month I get: 4 cores, 4 GB RAM, 100 GB SSD, uncapped bandwith (at least in theory) The days of DO offering the best prices are long over.

What hosting service you use?

https://servercheap.net/

The prices listed are slightly higher but every time you visit a 15% discount code will pop-up. So far, so good. The server is in Chicago and I get 1 GBps (symmetric).

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