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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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For the fellow European (edit: & US) HN crowd I can highly recommend Hetzner's Cloud offerings: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

I've been using both DigitalOcean (~5years) and Hetzner (11months) and I can definitely suggest Hetzner, very good service and good pricing - plus they offer dedicated servers at very reasonable pricing (and even vSwitch! You can create private network between them - very useful when you need a beast server and another one not too powerful).

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That’s why today we are announcing that for the first time we’re changing our prices to best serve you at every stage of your growth journey. To best serve you at every stage of your growth journey it would seem. Or if you'd like a translation from stilted corporate speak into plain language: we went public and the line's gotta go up and engineers and hardware don't come cheap.

It more and more feels like going public is the big mistake in a lot of tech companies, because everything gets real squirrely after that for customers and employees.

Any more, whenever a company I use goes public or is acquired, I start looking for the egress. I'm happy that the founders of whatever it is got a nice payday, but I don't expect their creation to continue being worth using after that.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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I just went from Quarantining all email from Digital Ocean IPs to outright deleting it before delivery. Digital Ocean is a huge supporter of spammers and does absolutely nothing about spam or toward spam prevention. Please do not support Digital Ocean as they've chosen to be a bad actor on the Internet in the name of profit.

They're all guilty. From my experience we've had way more issues with AWS machines running exploit checks/brute force logins than any other cloud provider.

If I report an issue to AWS, AWS actually takes action. If I report an issue to DO, DO sends my report to the bad actor and my problem becomes worse.

They may all be guilty, but some actually try to do something. DO does nothing and does not care.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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I've been using Linode instead of DigitalOcean since ~2015 IIRC. I just checked their pricing page [1] and find it pretty hostile and confusing. First, you won't see any tech spec at all without clicking on a card; "starts at $blah/mo" means precious little without tech specs. Then, once you click on "Droplets" you get another grid(s) of cards where the tech specs are teeny-tiny and comparison is very painful. Compar…

I'll dig it up for you. This is from Feb 2020, and is much more straightforward than what's on the site now. https://web.archive.org/web/20200229081345/https://www.digit...

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Looks like Linode is still doing $5 nodes. Hopefully there's not a similar announcement there in the near future. https://www.linode.com/pricing/

OVH has an option for $3.50 (which I think is _cheaper_ than it was when I signed up a couple years ago, and I don't _think_ I'm looking at CAD pricing)... Compare:

OVH: https://us.ovhcloud.com/vps/

  1 vCore, Memory 2 GB, Storage 20 GB SSD SATA, Public bandwidth 100Mbps [ed. - "unlimited traffic"], $3.50
DO: https://www.digitalocean.com/try/new-pricing The new Droplet priced at $4/month has 1 vCPU, 512MB memory, 500GB bandwidth, and a 10GB SSD Disk. It will be available on July 1, 2022.

And then Linode (I assume you were referencing the 1GB Shared CPU option): https://www.linode.com/pricing/

  RAM CPUs SSD Storage Transfer Network In Network Out Monthly
  1 GB 1 25 GB  1 TB  40 Gbps  1 Gbps  $5
And I wasn't going to include Vultr from my sibling comment at first, but then I checked them out, and they're significantly different enough to mention: https://www.vultr.com/pricing/

"Regular Performance", last-gen Intel CPU and regular SSD; not a typo that this lists the first configuration twice, with two different prices - that's what they show as of 5/16/2022 1PM ET:

  vCPUs Memory Bandwidth Storage Monthly
  1 vCPU 0.5 GB 0.50 TB 10 GB $2.50 /mo
  1 vCPU 0.5 GB 0.50 TB 10 GB $3.50 /mo
  1 vCPU   1 GB 1.00 TB 25 GB $5.00 /mo
"High Frequency", 3GHz+ Intel Xeon CPU and NVMe SSD:

  1 vCPU   1 GB 1.00 TB 32 GB $6 /mo
And finally "High Performance", AMD Epyc/Intel Xeon (pricing the same for both) with NVMe SSD:

  1 vCPU   1 GB 2.00 TB 25 GB $6.00 /mo
I didn't have an opinion coming into this, just was looking at another potential host for my small projects, but Linode, OVH and Vultr clearly win here vs. DigitalOcean.

Note that this doesn't take into account personal preferences (I think some people don't like OVH because of concerns about their data center physical safety, with that recent-ish fire, which, fair), datacenter locations, etc. etc.; but assuming parity on quality etc., I think those three are all better options, with Vultr especially having a lot of of flexibility.

I apologize for formatting and term confusion in this post, didn't have the time to clean it up more, and didn't want to editorialize the original sites too much. I will just say I hate how we use "bandwidth" to both mean "data transfer speed" and "monthly data transfer limit"...

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The $5 was 1G ram previously. I don't think there was a 512 option

They used to have a 512M droplet for $5. After a few years they upped it to 1G, and you could upgrade for free.

I actually got slightly burned when they did that update. I was doing deployments by "slug" (their term) and the old slug went up to $10/month when they created the new 1GB $5 droplet option. Now my system double checks the price before deploying a droplet.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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DO has been on the path to increase profitability for quite some time. I guess most just aren't aware of their pricing / spec compared to Linode in the past few years.

Unfortunately Linode is now under Akamai, which means there will be a lot of uncertainty going forward. DO is now officially moving towards the AWS direction. Or at least a cheaper AWS alternative direction.

Arguably the end of the Linode / DO era.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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post #162

I've been using Linode instead of DigitalOcean since ~2015 IIRC. I just checked their pricing page [1] and find it pretty hostile and confusing. First, you won't see any tech spec at all without clicking on a card; "starts at $blah/mo" means precious little without tech specs. Then, once you click on "Droplets" you get another grid(s) of cards where the tech specs are teeny-tiny and comparison is very painful. Compar…

I really like that about Linode, no click to see crap.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also recommend OVH. I run a small api on their cheapest VPS, I think I pay like 4/mo for it. I get maintenance emails quite often, but I think it's from an abundance of caution. I can't remember it actually ever going down.

probably because one of their datacenters burnt down last year, youd like to think they are being extra cautious now.

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