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Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by kodah »

I really wish the US would get an offering that's more like Hetzner and OVH (I understand OVH does have a near-US location, I'd like something closer to where I live).

I've been a DO customer for years. Over those years I've observed support become mismanaged with long delays, lack of continuity (except via escalations), etc... Increasing the prices with this vague message I think is a bad move; if you (as a business) need to increase your prices then save me the massaging. Just tell me what's gotten more expensive, how you're going to use this money, and if there's a path to making services cheaper in the future. That's how you get your customer invested in your direction versus selling them on generalized messaging that fails to succinctly describe what's about to happen to their wallets.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by tehbeard »

sitkack wrote: post #150
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #53

To give some hobbyist level price increase numbers: I'm currently running two basic droplets at 8gb RAM and 4vCPU, which is basically just enough resources for a proper dev kubernetes cluster with Promethueus, Loki, 5-6 apps, etc (4gb 4vCPU is not enough, I tried). I also run a third 1gb1vcpu management droplet outside the cluster as well as a load balancer in front of my API gateway and a spaces instance to dump bac…

> 8gb RAM and 4vCPU This is Raspberry Pi 4 territory. Your monthly cost is the price of hardware, per month. If you are on a home 1G connection, your home bandwidth is as good or better than what you are getting on DO. At the end of a year, you would have a 12 node cluster.

Is an old arm CPU really comparable to a Xeon/epyc?

And home connections are all asymmetric, you may get a gig down but I've not seen anything outside business class with over 50 up.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by ksec »

sitkack wrote: post #139

Prices should be going down , not up. Infact, I would expect out of my cloud provider a commitment to drop prices by some percentage each year. A $100 workload from last year should not cost more than a $100 this year. We are still on exponential curves for compute, storage and DC bandwidth.

>We are still on exponential curves for compute, storage and DC bandwidth.

We are not and we haven't been at it for quite some time already. Only compute is dropping in price but it is hardly on an exponential curves.

>A $100 workload from last year should not cost more than a $100 this year.

That is on the assumption that cost of are the same for other part of business even if hardware cost are dropping. Which isn't true.

And ignoring all the above, we are currently experience component shortage which means everything cost more, and energy price increase.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by martinald »

ricochet11 wrote: post #194
hnarn wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment you replied to says: > We are still on exponential curves for compute and storage and DC bandwidth. So what’s the angle here, power makes up so much of the service or the cost of power has increased so much that it warrants doubling the price for managed databases?

at least for me in uk the cost of power has almost doubled the beginning of this year, and is expected to rise another 50% in october (the gov limits how much they can jump every 6 months). so i kind of agree with the other poster, power has got so expensive i would expect prices to be going up. (add onto this manufacturing and supply chain issues and replacing hardware isnt cheap either).

the gov limits how much they can jump every 6 months -> only for residential customers. Business customers do not have this cap.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by tehbeard »

annoyingnoob wrote: post #204

I just went from Quarantining all email from Digital Ocean IPs to outright deleting it before delivery. Digital Ocean is a huge supporter of spammers and does absolutely nothing about spam or toward spam prevention. Please do not support Digital Ocean as they've chosen to be a bad actor on the Internet in the name of profit.

They're all guilty.

From my experience we've had way more issues with AWS machines running exploit checks/brute force logins than any other cloud provider.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by nimos »

bombcar wrote: post #219
karmakaze wrote: post #36

The info I was wanted to see is on a linked page. > Introducing a new $4 Droplet Customers use DigitalOcean for use cases ranging from hosting mission-critical applications to testing new ideas. To empower even more developers across the globe, we are introducing a new Droplet priced at $4/month with 1 vCPU, 512MB memory, 500GB bandwidth, and a 10GB SSD.

I'm kind of annoyed that vCPU is now a measurement of ... something. Whereas memory, bandwidth, and storage are "roughly" comparable (there are performance differences between SSDs and RAM for sure, they're not as blatant) the difference between "a single core" on a CPU can be completely insane. We need some form of "generic CPU power" that can more accurately compare these things.

At some point AWS did have an "ECU" that did this.

https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/what-is-an-ecu-an-ec2-com...

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by skippyboxedhero »

smileybarry wrote: post #210
skippyboxedhero wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using Backblaze/Wasabi. If you get their European servers, you can rclone mount on a Hetzner VPS and get very good speeds. If you have a fiber connection/very fast disks at home then maybe it will bottleneck. But for file storage and basic playback (for example, through SMB mount) then it is pretty good. Tbf though, Hetzner auctions with 6TB*2 of disk at 45EUR are a good alternative. It is really a trade-…

I wanted to build something Plex-like so sadly real block storage was a requirement, otherwise indexing and seeking could be a pain. If not I would use Wasabi or other S3-likes

Ah, I use it for Jellyfin. The only issue that I have found was storing the config files on a remote system. I have actually had that problem locally too (when using a HDD mount on a HyperV VM). But storing the config locally seemed to help.

I don't do transcodes though, and I think that is the other problem with a low-power system.

Re: DigitalOcean: New $4 Droplet and updated pricing

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Post by bennyp101 »

sitkack wrote: post #150
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #53

To give some hobbyist level price increase numbers: I'm currently running two basic droplets at 8gb RAM and 4vCPU, which is basically just enough resources for a proper dev kubernetes cluster with Promethueus, Loki, 5-6 apps, etc (4gb 4vCPU is not enough, I tried). I also run a third 1gb1vcpu management droplet outside the cluster as well as a load balancer in front of my API gateway and a spaces instance to dump bac…

> 8gb RAM and 4vCPU This is Raspberry Pi 4 territory. Your monthly cost is the price of hardware, per month. If you are on a home 1G connection, your home bandwidth is as good or better than what you are getting on DO. At the end of a year, you would have a 12 node cluster.

Mythic Beasts[1] do Pi hosting for a reasonable amount - not used them personally, but I have been recommended to them by a few people

[1] https://www.mythic-beasts.com

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