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Why? They have such tasty food, I love it.
you aren't gonna be loving it when you get health problems
Such as?
McDonald’s to Exit from Russia
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple products can be brought from overseas with McDonalds they would just make a clone which uses same formulas and suppliers
It's about removing sanction: denying the Russians - particularly the urban Russians - their veneer of civilization, affluence, westernization. The notion that they had accomplished something material positive in regards to moving forward in the world among nations after the Soviet collapse. Sure they can clone brands, and sometimes they can clone products and services, you can also go to Walmart and buy Great Value…
I think you're taking your words fairly serious, whereas they would cause a lot of good laughs outside of the bubble of "the West".
For starters, why do you think that Russia would care whether you are currently pretending anything about Russia.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
Russia is party to several international treaties that allow it to be sued outside of Russian courts if it doesn't uphold intellectual property law, and if those suits do not go Russia's way, then it is now possible that Russian assets can be seized as compensation. Or, to oversimplify it, if Russia decides that anyone can use McDonald's trademark, then maybe Gazprom's pipelines won't be Russian anymore.
You are a bit late to the party. Many Russian assets have already been seized, among them the Gazprom subsidiary in Germany. We are in a weird spot where Russia is very much interested in economic relationships continuing more or less as is (exemplified by the conciliatory rhetoric from the Russian government, essentially they are saying "no hard feelings, return any time" to the departing companies) so will mostly r…
> Many Russian assets have already been seized, among them the Gazprom subsidiary in Germany
Most Russian assets have been frozen, not seized. The German subsidiary made news for being an exception in that Germany took control of the subsidiary. But it’s still Gazprom’s property.
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#174Is Russia going to reclaim the Moon Man from the fascis…oh wait.
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#175> The Company intends to initiate the process of “de-Arching” those restaurants, which entails no longer using the McDonald’s name, logo, branding, and menu, though the Company will continue to retain its trademarks in Russia. Obviously they'd want to keep the trademark, otherwise they have no way to prevent those sold restaurants from "re-Arching" after the "de-Arching" :)
EDIT: This turned out to be fake - sorry. Leaving the rest of the comment here for posterity. A Russian restaurant chain "Uncle Vanya" has already filed for a trademark that looks very "inspired" by the McD arches. It is basically rotated 90 degrees and a line is added, so it looks like a "B" - which is like the letter "V" in Vanya in the cyrillic alphabet. Source: https://twitter.com/JoshGerben/status/15040821259680…
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#176Can you sell the Russian business without violating the sanctions?
I'm not sure who downvoted you. It is a good question. McDonald's and other consumer goods type companies are not sanctioned, so the company can sell its assets. For that matter they could continue to operate as normal in Russia if they choose.
It sounds like Russia might get declared a terrorist state soon. I assume that changes things.
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#177I remember the evening news on TV when the first McDonald's restaurant opened in 1990 at Pushkin Square. There was a huge crowd of Russians outside, wanting to try the burger. It was a sign of a more open world, something resembling an end of the cold war. There was a sense of optimism in the West about a peaceful future with Russia. It does not matter that McD itself is closing in Russia, but it does tell us somethi…
One of my traumas from life in Russia during my childhood is the understanding that you live in a North Korea redux, and you have McDonalds, and other Western companies from democratic countries coming here, and feeding that regime. US politicians kept droning how terrible Russia was through whole 200X, yet allow their companies to "wage business on the free world" Can you imagine McDonalds in Pyongyang, and Don Thom…
>"One of my traumas from life in Russia during my childhood is the understanding that you live in a North Korea redux, and you have McDonalds, and other Western companies from democratic countries coming here, and feeding that regime."
A child traumatized by the thoughts about geopolitical issues?
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
> then maybe Gazprom's pipelines won't be Russian anymore. Germany already took over control of Gazprom Germania, with tanks and pipelines within Germany. So that isn't much of a threat. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Fachthemen/Elektrizitaet... (PDF, German language)
Not quite. It is still the property of Gazprom, but the control is exercised by the German authorities at the moment to ensure proper operations.
Also if it weren't taken over it would be subject to sanctions as well.
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#179Also in the press release > McDonald’s restaurants in Ukraine remain closed while the Company continues to pay full salaries for its employees in the country…
Bravo to McDonald's for that. My company (I'm an American working for an international one based in Germany) is doing the same thing. They're also building temporary small houses for our Ukrainian employees and families on corporate property in Poland and Germany. They also tried paying our Russian employees full wages too, until local Russian authorities and NATO/EU sanctions stopped that.
That, and they matched Euro for Euro employee contributions to any Ukrainian relief effort they donated to. Outstanding response, I think.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems to ignore the last 20 years of NATO occupation of Iraq which has been attacked based on false reports of some nuclear warheads that have never been found, I am not sure if you guys have short memory, are constantly brainwashed by your partisan media or just not that smart, If I was surrounded by a bunch of countries depending on the will of some guys calling freedom fries to force other to join, creating f…
Iraq was not a NATO operation, hence the term "coalition of the willing."
This is laughable on the same level as Putin when he denied that Russian troops are in Crimea.
"These are just some people who bought their uniforms in the military store"
"That was not a NATO operation but an operation carried out by NATO countries"
Meanwhile for the whole world, NATO has waged war in Iraq. Yugoslavia before that. Lybia after that.