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You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by formerly_proven »

rvbissell wrote: post #414
Blackthorn wrote: post #110

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Nothing wrong with diet coke. (Well, I don't like the caffeine so I don't usually drink it, but still.) Gatorade zero after a workout can really hit the spot some days too.

Every time I've successfully lost significant weight, I was drinking mostly water and not diet sodas. I half-way wonder if our bodies release insulin into the bloodstream in part due to the presence of a sweet taste on the tongue -- even if noncaloric. Because anecdotally, I think I get hungrier faster after a Diet Coke.

I'd wager regularly consuming sweetened things also makes it a lot harder to quit sweetened things and get rid of the "sugar craving" reported by many.

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qgin wrote: post #355
hombre_fatal wrote: post #190

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They must be one of those people who can eat a McDonalds double quarter pounder + fries (1000 calories) and be good for the day. They'd be horrified how many of those combos I could eat in an hour while easily enjoying it.

Add a large coke and you can easily hit 1500 in one meal. 1 lunch, 1 dinner, a snack, and a nice healthy breakfast and you can easily clear 4000-5000 a day without feeling like you ate an abnormal amount.

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Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by abandonliberty »

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

>People still tell me I shouldn't be hungry. >Maybe it's Ok to be a little hungry.

I think you're 100% on to something. We suffer from avoidance of discomfort, as demonstrated by our obesity and opioid epidemics. Facing that discomfort is usually the fastest path to growth in every aspect of life across career, education, diet, love, exercise.

We always try to find routes around discomfort. There're endless dating gurus promising to save you the potentially horrible pain of rejection, cosmetic surgeries, drugs, and avoidance options. None of these shortcuts work, instead resulting in addictions, cowardice, unfulfilled dreams and lives.

There's mounting evidence of the health benefits from calorie restriction, though autophagy and inflammation reduction. We evolved to have maintenance pathways only function in times of caloric deficit, and to eat when food was available. Now food is always available. I've found that taking coffee while I fast reduces the discomfort. Depending on the mechanism of action, this might decrease the benefits.

All of us have opportunities in our lives to practice equanimity with discomfort. There's no moral failure here. We can all support each other to face our discomfort as we endeavor every day to move a step closer to our goals.

Congratulations on your progress!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction#Life_exten...

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by louhike »

stevebmark wrote: post #334
louhike wrote: post #314

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Ketosis can really mess your health though. My dad had serious problems after trying it, so be really wary if you want to try it.

I've done ketosis for 5 years, and now on and off for 2 years later. I had a full blood lipid panel done and it went well. Volek and Phinney have good literature for learning more. What problems did your dad encounter?

Issues with kidneys.

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Post by Smaug123 »

LosWochosWeek wrote: post #290
drooby wrote: post #132

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Commenting purely on my own experience. I have found that my hunger is malleable. If I start eating breakfast, I will be hungry in the morning at around the time I started eating breakfast. But, if I stop eating breakfast and only do lunch and dinner, I will eventually lose my hunger for breakfast and have no problem coasting till lunch on nothing but a coffee.

It's really odd how much you (read: I; I obviously can't comment on other people, everybody is different) actually can bend your appetite. In Ramadan I can easily coast until 8-9 PM without any thoughts on being hungry until like an hour before I break my fasts. And I always do OMAD while fasting, so I dont eat breakfast before dawn. If anything, diets should focus on the psychological factor more than the actual foo…

I'm pretty sure the article's numbers were UK ones, by the way - I certainly knew the UK Domino's large pizza number from personal experience, and the photos of e.g. peanut butter were ones I recognise from UK supermarkets.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by Smaug123 »

telomero22 wrote: post #247
csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

Your body craves carbohydrates, it's like an addiction. Overcoming that addition is all about training your willpower and delayed gratification. It's the same as smoking. Strong willed people can stop smoking in a heartbeat. Weak minded people cannot, their minds are simply too weak to resist smoking and they need it every 2 hours. Same with eating. Next time you feel that hunger feeling, out of spite just don't eat…

Long term endorphins from not eating?! Maybe once, the first time you ever successfully don't eat, but surely it stops being a surprise after the first time.

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Post by FlyingCapybara »

jimmydoreornot wrote: post #232

While correct and useful advice for some people, this advice is useless for many (I suspect most) overweight and obese people. I'm on the border of overweight/obese. I can lose weight if I focus on losing weight. I've dropped from 100kg to 74kg and back. I've gone back down to 91kg and back. How? Eating less, of course. By counting calories. But here is the problem. Anything below 95kg and my body and mind is hyper a…

Of course it's useless, the author is selling himlself, he's a fitness coach...

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Post by CuriousSkeptic »

netmonk wrote: post #468
throwoutway wrote: post #460

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Source?

2 years of corona circus and explosion of obesity worldwide. https://www.who.int/health-topics/obesity#tab=tab_1 So promoting paper which relate to prenatale conditions which would leads to adult obesity is just a smoke screen to hide that the whole modern society is just a big pathology factory at mankind scale. better make people feel they are cursed by gene than just realise that the real war on drug should be aga…

The WHO report actually agrees with you on food cartel issue

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by HanShotFirst »

nojvek wrote: post #458

I weigh more in my 30s than I did in my 20s. I’m realizing I’m slowly gaining weight year over year. I have more abundant food now. Now that we have kids. We have regular 3x meals per day. Also I feel more hungry nowadays. Not sure why. I feel like I stress eat. With kids and moving to Suburbs, I’m not hitting the gym 3x per week like I used to. I could use some tips on how new parents stay in shape.

Just chiming in that I am in this boat too. I find it easy to fast at the office, provided there's not some ridiculous snack brought in by coworkers. However, at home the sheer amount of food I see while I'm preparing it for the kids, who constantly want snacks, makes it difficult for me to resist eating. I've had a bit of success by "skipping" some meals and only eating the kids' leftovers.

The stress of raising kids doesn't help either.

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Post by elmerfud »

scarface74 wrote: post #56
dvh wrote: post #17

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Yes but then you have to keep exercising for the rest of your life. When something happens (e.g. you are busy in job or you get injured) you no longer can exercise as much as you need so you start gaining weight. Fundamentally using exercise to lose weight is long-term unachievable because it is unpredictable. Losing weight via diet is much simpler you just eat less, there isn't anything that would objectively stop y…

I can’t agree with this enough. From 2000-2012, I was a part time fitness instructor and I did heavy cardio at least 10 hours a week without fail. I also trained for half marathons later on. I was easily burning 3000-5000 calories a week and I could eat anything and not gain weight. As soon as I stopped, my weight ballooned. Even when I started eating less, I still can’t get my eating habits in sync with my reduced (…

I think the confusion here is understanding that my point was exercise is to assist with weight loss and not be the primary thing to induce weight loss. If you use it as the primary tool for your weight loss you will fall into the trap that you did anything that disrupts your exercise causes your weight loss to reverse.

If instead you used diet as the primary tool and exercise has the supplement when the supplement falls away it's easier to adjust the diet to compensate. For example a moderate exercise of 30 minutes or so a day can burn an additional 200 calories a day that's 10% of a 2000 calorie diet. If you're in a situation where you cannot exercise cutting out an additional 200 calories is a relatively small amount of food.

Humans are very good at throwing everything into one bag and expecting it to remain forever. Your example of your high amount of exercise to induce weight loss is an example of this. It works but it's also very short-term because it cannot be maintained. I almost like him this to exotic dancers as a profession. It is a good way for a relatively low skill person to achieve a high amount of money in the short term. For example they could go to college and pay for it in cash. But often times the returns are so great it's a difficult to see that this cannot last forever. But as with the body cannot exercise at a high level for ever exotic dancers cannot remain profitable forever. This is why these are tools to allow a short-term process to evolve into a long-term sustainable game. Earn a large amounts of cash when you're young and viable to invest in a education with a future payoff or invest in another long-term payoff. Exercise to supplement your dieting, but the main goal should be evolving your diet to adjust to your caloric needs because that is the long-term.

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