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Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

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On social media, thousands see your post but only a few react. They're the ones that found your post much more interesting than the average person who saw it. In real life, only a few people hear what you say but they feel socially obligated to react in some way. So you get bland, polite reactions. They're the people that, if they'd seen your post on social media, wouldn't have replied at all. In a nutshell: on socia…

> On social media, thousands see your post That's either wildly optimistic, or most people spend a lot more time building up their online persona than I do.

How many do you think read this reply? At least that many, I'd wager.

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

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> HN is a strongly self-selected group of people, with rules against bad-faith arguments I'd love to see those rules enforced someday. There are plenty of examples of such arguments to be found here.

Other peoples' intent is fundamentally unknowable. Labeling someone's speech as "bad-faith" is repackaging an individual's subjective dislike of certain arguments into a justification for denying everyone else the ability to evaluate that argument and make their own individual judgement.

Which, if there is enough consensus, is generally pretty accurate and saves everyone a whole lot of brain processing. Only so many things can be evaluated and judged a day per person.

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

#163

On social media, thousands see your post but only a few react. They're the ones that found your post much more interesting than the average person who saw it. In real life, only a few people hear what you say but they feel socially obligated to react in some way. So you get bland, polite reactions. They're the people that, if they'd seen your post on social media, wouldn't have replied at all. In a nutshell: on socia…

> On social media, thousands see your post That's either wildly optimistic, or most people spend a lot more time building up their online persona than I do.

TikTok, Reddit, Hacker News. These are all social media where your posts has a good chance of being seen by thousands of people.

Facebook and Instagram, not so much unless one does exactly like you say, building a following.

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

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> Some family members get super offended if you make any kind of suggestion on how they can fix a given problem Unsolicited advice is generally offensive. If they wanted your advice on how to fix their problems they would ask you. If they don't and you go ahead anyway then you imply that you are superior to them and just come off as obnoxious.

>Unsolicited advice is generally offensive. If they wanted your advice on how to fix their problems they would ask you. It is not generally offensive to offer a suggestion about how to solve a problem, what's offensive is abusing people time by rehearsing the same complaints over and over again while ignoring any kind of solution. If they whine constantly about a problem but never seek any way to solve it, it is just…

I've generally found the interpretation you espouse to be looked upon quite favorably among engineers, and quite disliked among the general population. FYI.

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

#166

Loud minorities. You only notice the bad parts. Hiding behind a pseudonym/anonymity allows people to hold back less. You probably don't talk much to teens/children irl. You do online. Less / no social repercussions to being a cunt. People who are bitter and angry and troll on forums may not go outside much irl, so you don't meet them. If you are outside the US, you get to experience the exported political polarizatio…

>People who are bitter and angry and troll on forums may not go outside much irl, so you don't meet them. I believe this is myth, was it even proved? I've seen it being repeated for at least decade yet it always felt like "one quick, somewhat logically sounding explanation" but is it even real?

The people I know who go out a lot IRL tend to not be bitter and angry where I can see them anyway. But I've never seen any actual data.

I guess to gather it one would need access to a randomized subset of the populations browsing histories and forum posts. Maybe the NSA can help? (/s)

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

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post #64

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There's also the fact that when you're online there's a zero risk of being punched in the face when you say something the other person is likely to find unpleasant.

It's dehumanization. We use that word in a bad way most of the time but in the case of online discussions, it's quite normal. Like I know that you're a real person and you know that I am a real person; however, when were talking online that fact can get ignored by our brains. It goes from "I'm talking to a person" to "I'm responding to brabel". In a physical conversation it's impossible to achieve the same level of "…

>"I'm responding to brabel"

More like you are responding to a graffiti he has left on this website. Just like people draw (often stupid) messages on the walls of public toilets.

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

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post #64

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There's also the fact that when you're online there's a zero risk of being punched in the face when you say something the other person is likely to find unpleasant.

I was going to say it's mostly about the threat of physical violence (or lack thereof.)

it is lack (or significantly lower risk) of pretty much any threat. In real life people with different opinions are punished in many ways, not just physical (is anything i'd say the pure physical punishment is frequently not the main concern). Being anonymous online (or hard to reach in some other way, like say residing abroad) allows at least some freedom of speech.

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

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post #166

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>People who are bitter and angry and troll on forums may not go outside much irl, so you don't meet them. I believe this is myth, was it even proved? I've seen it being repeated for at least decade yet it always felt like "one quick, somewhat logically sounding explanation" but is it even real?

The people I know who go out a lot IRL tend to not be bitter and angry where I can see them anyway. But I've never seen any actual data. I guess to gather it one would need access to a randomized subset of the populations browsing histories and forum posts. Maybe the NSA can help? (/s)

>where I can see them anyway

What does it mean - facebook/tiktok?

What if you just aren't aware of other sites/apps (discord, reddit, etc) that they do use?

Re: Ask HN: Why are people in real life so different?

#170

On social media, thousands see your post but only a few react. They're the ones that found your post much more interesting than the average person who saw it. In real life, only a few people hear what you say but they feel socially obligated to react in some way. So you get bland, polite reactions. They're the people that, if they'd seen your post on social media, wouldn't have replied at all. In a nutshell: on socia…

> On social media, thousands see your post That's either wildly optimistic, or most people spend a lot more time building up their online persona than I do.

But how would you know? Typically you don't see the number of views, you only see the replies.

You can see the impression count on Twitter, and typically it's much, much greater than the number of replies or other interactions.

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