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Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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> That is: assume he already knows everything about it. Assume he knows more than you do about it. Even if you have groundbreakingly original ideas in your material, just pretend it’s old hat for him. Write your prose in the succinct, direct, no-explanations way that you would write for a world-leading expert on the material. So if he knows everything, why am I writing for him?

How do you know your minions are any good when you delegate tasks to them? How do you find out if they can think for themselves?

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're being harsh. I think it was probably more considered but I'm guessing that everything he's written since THAT post has been more considered - it would be a completely natural reaction to having accidentally laid yourself bare. After all whom amongst us having accidentally forwarded an e-mail to the wrong person hasn't got a little more careful about what we say for a while afterwards? But I still think…

Ok, maybe considered is less harsh than bland. But do you think it is a good thing? The first time I noticed this was when I listed to the original and then studio version of 2 Pac's "Hit 'em up". In the first he was really and truly angry and you could feel it. The second version was 'just there'. When actors and actresses get "into character" it is really clear. They mean what they act and it seems natural. let us…

Nice analogy :)

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Is it me or does this read like a big ass-kissing of Bezos after he tore him apart in the accidentally leaked memo? Not saying it isnt true but...

He said it himself "I’ve always skirted any perceived shortcomings and focused on what they do well." Now he's doing that again, in a big way. He's saying "Bezos is a genius" and not saying "Bezos is a micromanaging asshole"

Bezos is probably both a genius and a micromanaging asshole.

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Steve accidentally made an internal memo public. Oops, but luckily he was just the butt of jokes all week. To make up for telling everyone how bad amazon was, steve talks about Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos is super-smart, and giving a presentation to him will either go really well (unlikely) or really terribly (much more likely). Therefore, when presenting: assume Jeff knows the subject really well (because he does) and that your amazing revolutionary idea is obvious to him. Also know everything about your subject, and expect Jeff to notice any tiny mistake you make.

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

#47

By the way, the most important part of the post is where he says that Google is following through on the problems he pointed out. I'd be curious to see what (if) will come out of this - if they will expose their internal services to third parties, that will be great news.

No, that was just polite talk. This isn't new -- this has been a glaring issue for a while. And if they were serious about it, Brin wouldn't have replied so flippantly. Google is just a one product company (with Gmail being the exception that proves the rule) lacking the humility and gravitas to be more.

And you are jumping to this conclusion based on your interpretation of one remark by Sergey? It was clearly a joke you know. And Google is not a company where Sergey dictates everyone. Engineers are empowered to just get things done as well as follow the general direction the company has decided to pursue.

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Any copy of the original anywhere? As an aside: did he just say Franz Liszt was "famous-ish"?!

Any copy of the original anywhere?

It's pasted in the top comment of the HN story:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3101876

As an aside: did he just say Franz Liszt was "famous-ish"?!"

His style seems to be hyperbole and tongue-in-cheek mostly. I wouldn't take it very seriously.

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