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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by nautilius »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

Not sure what that steep price is you would pay to 'accommodate' trans people? It requires nothing on your part except for acknowledging and respecting their existence.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

#102

Post by _gabe_ »

margaretdouglas wrote: post #90
_gabe_ wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I choose not to watch something that implies it may be sexualizing young girls? So by this logic if you see a trailer for a movie that's highlighting the dangers of child pornography, but from the trailer it seems to be showing and possibly promoting child pornography, and I choose not to watch that because I don't want to unwittingly view a film that promotes child pornography, I have now unreasonably cast j…

The marketing material for the movie was absolute dog water. I agree with your position there, but wish you'd take other sources and allow them to add color to your reaction to something you have only a single perspective on. Perhaps they could in form you that your reaction, based on bad information, is inaccurate. Perhaps you could use that realization as an opportunity to view the film yourself and come to your ow…

I'm genuinely curious then. Is the IMDB parents guide enough of an outside perspective for me to determine whether or not I want to watch a film? I'll frequently look it up to see if the film contains any material that I don't want to see, and I'll avoid the film if I get a bad perception from the parents guide. After reading the parents guide about this film it has only reinforced what I originally thought from the trailer.

I'm fine with watching a documentary that highlights the evils of the sexualization of young girls, but I'm not going to watch:

> Frequent scenes of 11-year-old girls dancing lewdly where the camera pans in and zooms in on the children's buttocks and midsections (both still in skin-tight clothes) Close up shots of the girls dancing with their leg spread above their head while camera focus on crotch area. These views are fairly frequent.

And much more content like that just to get to the conclusion that the sexualization of young girls is evil.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/parentalguide/nudity

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

#104

Post by Wowfunhappy »

aftbit wrote: post #32
_gabe_ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respectfully disagree. I haven't seen cuties, but I just watched the trailer. The movie may be a good thoughtful coming of age movie, but the trailer (at least in my opinion) did not characterize that at all. If I watch a trailer and it seems to indicate a movie that's about the sexualization of very young girls, I think it's perfectly fine for me to cancel my subscription without watching the movie. You may disagr…

I'm not sure you're disagreeing. It seems more like you are proving the parent post's point. You didn't watch the movie, yet you had an emotional reaction to it anyway, and used that to make a decision about the service. The parent isn't saying that's unethical or anything, just that the movie is being mischaracterized by people who did not watch it.

Another way to interpret the GP is that even if the movie itself was a great coming-of-age story, the trailer Netflix made to promote it was disgusting and unacceptable. That seems reasonable enough to me.

(Note that I’ve watched neither the movie nor the trailer.)

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by cletus »

So Activision-blizzard has been mired in controversy for several years now. Lawsuits, scandals, etc. A lot of content creators have quit producing content for their games and people wonder if Blizzard can recover. IMHO Blizzard is one good release away from people forgetting all these controversies.

Netflix has thrown money at creating original content. If you look at some of their releases it's clear they've had more money than they know what to do with. Money will only take you so far. I agree they needed to do this. I disagree with how they've gone about it.

This has forced them into price hikes. In their most profitable markets they're now losing subs. The share price is like 75% off its peak.

How does this relate to Activision? Easy. If things were going well at Netflix (eg the share price was hitting new heights, sub numbers were up) I guarantee you no one would care about any of this. But things aren't going well and that foments dissent.

So while employees may have legitimate complaints (and they do) the main story is that things aren't going well at Netflix and they may have overspent themselves into a really tough spot. I know I no longer perma-subscribe to Netflix. It's more expensive than HBO. I'll pay for 1-2 months a year to catch up and that's it.

I fully expect Netflix to stem this kind of bleeding at some point by only having 6 month or annual subscriptions or those will be at the current price and the monthly price will be $20+.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by johntb86 »

ALittleLight wrote: post #23
jleyank wrote: post #3

"Hey, offending people sells and we're in it for the money...". If this bothers you, chant "we're in it for the money" until it doesn't. If it still bothers you, get outta here.

I find the idea that you shouldn't offend people odd and pretty recent. For example, when I was growing up, my mother would say "We have a G rated household." Meaning: in our household we could not watch any movies or TV shows that would not be rated G. As you might imagine, Netflix hosts lots of content that my parents would find offensive. Likewise, religious people might find pro-atheist content on Netflix offensi…

We used to have the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority and relatively universal radio/tv enforcement of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words, so there was a time (the 30s-60s) when the impulse was to censor everything to the lowest common denominator. It's not that recent a phenomenon.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by bin_bash »

cato_the_elder wrote: post #73
okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

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propaganda for which side?

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by 1over137 »

theossuary wrote: post #86
okareaman wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must not use Twitter

Your world view is through the lens of Twitter? Well there's your problem...

The world view of journalists and politicians is though the lens of Twitter. They live and breathe it. Consequentially, many others see things through the Twitter lens.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

#109

Post by okareaman »

jancsika wrote: post #83
okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

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I solidly mean #1. I hate that Facebook and others started advertising hard liquor. If I worked at Facebook, I could start a movement among employees to get the ads banned. Another example would be Google employee refusing to work on defense contracts. Netflix management is saying "you can quit if you don't like it" which seems like a reasonable response to me.

As for #2, I wish them all the luck. I'm like most people and take a live an let live attitude. I have no problem with trans women. In fact my father is a closet transvestite (he doesn't know I know) so I'd be hating on my own father.

What I don't like is being called someone who hates if I don't get with their agenda

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by bryans »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

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